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Tantra East and West

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Date: 14 Jul 1997 02:06:49 -0700
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49970714 aa2 Hail Satan!
# How can it be tantra if its western?  Without the cultural background 
tantra stems from many cultures, blossoms from many sources.  it may be
found in many religions, many socio-economic classes, temporal contexts.

# and flowing from the tradition(s) it is not tantra, 
tantra arises outside traditions and becomes ossified over time, a shell
(kleppoth) of its original life.  what makes something 'tantra' is not
that it resides inside a social tradition and seizes this label.  have
you ever read any Osho on this subject?  he was a tantric adepti.

# regardless of westerners borrowing that word. 

borrowing the word or infestation by the tantric masters?  good luck.

# It can have similarities, but it ain't it.  

'it'?  please describe 'it'.

# If its western its sex-magick, 

sex magick and tantra are often confused I agree.  not all Western tantra
is about sex disciplines, though it may include them.

# which has a different culture and tradition.

oh?  I gathered that sex magick was rather transcultural and panglobal.

# ...Sex-magick is just really good sex that includes mixxing and sharing 
# sexual fluids as a sacrament, 

you used to say it was just good sex until you ran into josh.
horse-racing is 'really' just a bunch of men on beasts riding around in
circles.  uh-huh.

# done with intent and often with kinks.  Kinks = whatever puts you on 
# a psychological roller-coaster -- handcuffs, homo-stuff, hetero stuff, 
# extreme arousal, s&m, b&d, role-playing, lingerie, shoes, religious 
# or magickal accoutrements, drugs -- whatever makes your toes and/or 
# mind curl.  

that's a lot of variables.  ok, this is what it is for you, then.
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