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Various: The Stele of Revealing

To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,talk.religion.misc,sci.archaeology
From: (nagasiva)
Subject: Various: The Stele of Revealing
Date: 18 Jun 1997 12:46:06 -0700




Fabio wrote:
> Is there anyone who knows if there is the "Stele of Revealing" in
> original language?

"The Holy Books of Thelema" (Equinox III/9) Weiser, 1983.

Appendix A is entirely devoted to the Stele.  It features no less than 
three separate transliterations and translations of the hieroglyphs 
including the Boulak translation Crowley worked from in 1904 as well 
as a modern one.  The new "Book Four" includes colour plates of the 
original Stele (as opposed to Crowley's reproduction.)

The problem with wanting the "original language" is that there is no 
certainty as to just how Ancient Egyptian was pronounced.  They didn't 
write in the vowels, and its only modern descendent (Coptic) is almost 
a dead language itself and has naturally changed much over the last 
two-score centuries.  No Egyptologist would claim that any modern 
translation really captured the full subtlety of the original.

> I ask this 'cause in MITAP is indicated a part: "A ka dua - Tuf ur biu -
> Bi a'a chefu - Dudu ner af an nuteru", maybe there's more of it
> somewhere.

Well, there's a whole Stele worth.

BTW did you know that the sarcophagus of Ankh-af-na-Khonsu is in the 
British Museum?  Does anybody out there know if the hieroglyphs on 
THAT have been translated and published?  Seems to me that there 
should be some interesting things on that....

> And for the Papyrus Ani in the original language?

Budge's "Book of the Dead" is available fron Dover Books.  Not very 
good by modern standards, but it does include the complete 
hieroglyphic text.  Jim Wasserman's new edition features the standard 
modern translation with a facsimile of the entire papyrus.



[from Arild Stromsvag ]

At 06:35 PM 6/13/97 +0000, you wrote:
>Jeffrey Smith wrote:
>> Can you give an exact location of Old Ankhie's coffin? I will hopefully
>> be visiting the BM myself in a couple of weeks, and knowing which gallery
>> to look in would help.  
>Spot on! 
>> I presume it would be in the Egyptian collection...

I hope to disappoint you, guys, but Ankh-f-n-Khonsu was the 'John Smith' of
his age. The name was extremely common, and the coffin at the BM does not
belong to 'our' Ankh. I had to do some research on this when I for one
glorious moment some years ago thought I had discovered something nobody
else knew about. I have the letter from the curator in charge of the
Egyptian and Assyrian collections in my files somewhere. Still worth a
vivit, though...


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