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Non-Crowleyan Thelema

To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick
From: catherine yronwode 
Subject: Re: Non-Crowleyan Thelema
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 23:01:45 GMT

Papaj418 wrote:
> tyagi sed:
> someone said:
> > > I haven't  heard from a serious non-Crowley thelemite 
> > > (or it was not obvious to me if they have written).
> >
> > there are a handful of us. it depends on your 
> > criteria of course.
> And they span an interesting spectrum.
> I usually end up defending AC for the part
> of his writings that *do* either apply or
> enlighten, though, oddly enough, not much
> of his philosophy has any place in my life.
> I honour women far more than he (AC), I
> eschew cruelty, even to morons, and
> embrace humility as AC never could have.
> Nonetheless, magic(k, your choice) is the
> guiding force in my life. Go figger!
> Will
> Love,
> Papa John

I was never a Crowleyite, nor studied him even as deeply as nagasiva
has, but, being a wide=ranging reader, i of course am familiar with his
life, his books, and the cult that has sprung up in his wake. What
interests me most about Crowley is his emphasis on the HGA and on

Strangely (well, not so strangely, after all, Crowley was a wide-ranging
reader, too :-) ) the latter concept is to be found forthrightly set out
in the writings of the magician Paschal Beverly Randolph (1825 - 1875).
For instance, Crowley's famous catch-phrase, "Love is the Law, Love
under Will" seems to derive directly from Randolph's aphorism, "Will
reigns Omnipotent; Love lieth at the Foundation" ("Mysteries of Eulis,"
1874). Both men also wrote booklets on the values of hashish in
mystico-magical practice and on sex-magick of the type that utilizes
orgasm and the blending of bodily fluids as a focus for directed will.
Both were also self-aggrandizing in stupid ways that could easily be
detected and debunked by later biographers.  

So, anyway, i feel that with Randolph, i can have my thelema without the
added ugly Crowley bits. 

Not that Randolph's life was ALL that much better than Crowley's ... but
... well, he was dealt a harsher hand of social and economic problems
than Crowley n=ever faced, so his personal failures are not so
monumental in my eyes as those of the pampered and spoiled British heir. 

cat yronwode 

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