a cache of usenet and other text files pertaining
to occult, mystical, and spiritual subjects.


Crowley's Satanism

To: thelema93-l@HOLLYFELD.ORG (Thelema93-Listserv)
From: tyagi@HOUSEOFKAOS.ABYSS.COM (xiwangmu)
Subject: Crowley's Satanism
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 1996 10:09:17 -0700 (PDT)

49960802 Aeon of the Adversary (year 1)

do what you please, for that is my Law.  Hail Satan!

#From: Walter Cassidy 

#...Crowley himself states im magick p277. 

#		"The Devil does not exist.  It is a false name 
#		 invented by the Black Brothers to imply a Unity 
#		 in their ignorant muddle of dispersions. A 
#		 devil who had unity would be a God."

others have (usually haughtily and with some degree of ignorance) pointed 
to this very same text previously within this and other forums, apparently 
thinking that this 'proves' that Crowley was not a Satanist.

what they appear not to understand is that many if not most Satanists not
only reject the idea of a Christian Satan but even go so far as to *entirely*
reject the very notion of gods and Satan as 'real entities'.  some 'Thelemites'
have asserted (without citation which I have seen) that Crowley made this same
claim, apparently thinking that this *excluded him from Satanism*!

that is, to many modern Satanists the concept of 'worship' is quite repugnant,
and the criteria which is (futilely) argued against by quotations like the
above only displays an abject ignorance of modern Satanism and what it includes. Thelema a religion.?  Did Crowley truly look at Thelema as a religion 
#or a [philosophy]?

he seemed to treat it like both.

#	Is Thelema Satanistic or New Eaon Christianity?

it is thoroughly Satanic by modern terms, having been a core inspiration
(in a Nietzschean and individualistic sense).  as it comes across via
Crowley it does appear to retain a great variety of what Satanists would
identify as 'Christian' remnants.  of course most modern Satanists are
attempting to go further than are Thelemic orgs in separating themselves
from what the former might call 'the Christian taint'. :>

some associate this with a greater degree of 'Thelemicness'.  some (such
as myself) might it consider this reactionary.  while I agree that the New
Aeon may well include vestiges of the structure and emblem of the old, I
also agree with most these modern Satanists who think it laughable that 
Thelemites resort to the same old (Christian) arguments when attempting 
to refute statements about Crowley's Satanism (such as that 'Satanism 
means Devil-worship' and Crowley didn't do that -- most modern Satanists
don't either!).

I would point you to a previous post on the subject (in the archives), in 
which I carefully asserted the various texts in which Crowley associated 
himself quite directly with Satan, albeit (as most Satanists do) with a 
refinement as regards the character of Satan Hirself.

the article from which I drew was an archived post by Tim Maroney, whose 
work I greatly appreciate (and who is apparently somewhat controversial 
within the OTO, fancy that):

I would be most pleased to see a thorough review of this file and its 
contents.  to date all I have seen in response is a grumpy withdrawal 
without content, which I could only interpret as the original writer
having been in the wrong (presuming facile claims) and discovering this.

love is the law, free love right now!

The Arcane Archive is copyright by the authors cited.
Send comments to the Arcane Archivist:

Did you like what you read here? Find it useful?
Then please click on the Paypal Secure Server logo and make a small
donation to the site maintainer for the creation and upkeep of this site.

The ARCANE ARCHIVE is a large domain,
organized into a number of sub-directories,
each dealing with a different branch of
religion, mysticism, occultism, or esoteric knowledge.
Here are the major ARCANE ARCHIVE directories you can visit:
interdisciplinary: geometry, natural proportion, ratio, archaeoastronomy
mysticism: enlightenment, self-realization, trance, meditation, consciousness
occultism: divination, hermeticism, amulets, sigils, magick, witchcraft, spells
religion: buddhism, christianity, hinduism, islam, judaism, taoism, wicca, voodoo
societies and fraternal orders: freemasonry, golden dawn, rosicrucians, etc.


There are thousands of web pages at the ARCANE ARCHIVE. You can use ATOMZ.COM
to search for a single word (like witchcraft, hoodoo, pagan, or magic) or an
exact phrase (like Kwan Yin, golden ratio, or book of shadows):

Search For:
Match:  Any word All words Exact phrase


Southern Spirits: 19th and 20th century accounts of hoodoo, including slave narratives & interviews
Hoodoo in Theory and Practice by cat yronwode: an introduction to African-American rootwork
Lucky W Amulet Archive by cat yronwode: an online museum of worldwide talismans and charms
Sacred Sex: essays and articles on tantra yoga, neo-tantra, karezza, sex magic, and sex worship
Sacred Landscape: essays and articles on archaeoastronomy, sacred architecture, and sacred geometry
Lucky Mojo Forum: practitioners answer queries on conjure; sponsored by the Lucky Mojo Curio Co.
Herb Magic: illustrated descriptions of magic herbs with free spells, recipes, and an ordering option
Association of Independent Readers and Rootworkers: ethical diviners and hoodoo spell-casters
Freemasonry for Women by cat yronwode: a history of mixed-gender Freemasonic lodges
Missionary Independent Spiritual Church: spirit-led, inter-faith, the Smallest Church in the World
Satan Service Org: an archive presenting the theory, practice, and history of Satanism and Satanists
Gospel of Satan: the story of Jesus and the angels, from the perspective of the God of this World
Lucky Mojo Usenet FAQ Archive: FAQs and REFs for occult and magical usenet newsgroups
Candles and Curios: essays and articles on traditional African American conjure and folk magic
Aleister Crowley Text Archive: a multitude of texts by an early 20th century ceremonial occultist
Spiritual Spells: lessons in folk magic and spell casting from an eclectic Wiccan perspective
The Mystic Tea Room: divination by reading tea-leaves, with a museum of antique fortune telling cups
Yronwode Institution for the Preservation and Popularization of Indigenous Ethnomagicology
Yronwode Home: personal pages of catherine yronwode and nagasiva yronwode, magical archivists
Lucky Mojo Magic Spells Archives: love spells, money spells, luck spells, protection spells, etc.
      Free Love Spell Archive: love spells, attraction spells, sex magick, romance spells, and lust spells
      Free Money Spell Archive: money spells, prosperity spells, and wealth spells for job and business
      Free Protection Spell Archive: protection spells against witchcraft, jinxes, hexes, and the evil eye
      Free Gambling Luck Spell Archive: lucky gambling spells for the lottery, casinos, and races