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Claims of Attainment

To: alt.magick
From: (B Heidrick)
Subject: Re: Claims of Attainment (
Date: 49941001

Quoting: |tyagI@houseofkaos.Abyss.coM (tyagi mordred nagasiva) 


|I have found that there are at least two approaches to the Abyss.

The tradition in Qabalah is four paths, with an implied fifth.
There are more, of course.

|Sometimes preconceptions keep us from trespassing our boundaries
|too soon

That's supposed to be done intentionally in Crowley's approach.  Some
selected illusions of this sort are retained like a release laniard
to be let-go as the Exempt Adept completes the Oath of the Abyss and
becomes a Babe of the Abyss.

|The path to Hell is very very important (perhaps why Christ was
|portrayed as going there).

So far, I have not found any viable method of this form of attainment
that does not include the equivalent of a tour of Hell (usually seven
hells) before assaying the Abyss.  In Merkabah Qabalah, most of the
work is done in the hells.  If this is done properly, the Abyss vanishes
and there is no difficulty beyond getting through the visions without
making a mistake.  The hells are for purification.  One approach to the
50 gates uses the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (the lower
seven Sephirot) to create 49 separate meditations (each sephirot with
all seven reflected within it) --- this takes the form of visiting
one's failings in each of those 49 categories and perfecting them.
When this is accomplished, the 50th gate opens and the Tree of Life
reformats into seven palaces --- the approach Crowley learned in the
Golden Dawn lectures. The negative confession of the Egyptian Book of
the Dead does this.  Also, the hells are visited in dramatic form in
Merkabah, naming the spirits of the parts of the doors of each hell
as is likewise done in the Egyptian Book of the Dead.

|If this isn't Samsara and dukkha you're talking about, then what is it?

It is.  You can't get rid of it in one sense, but you must in another.
You have to "get beyond it", not stay in it or bugger out below it.
That is not a permanent escape, but it is eternal.  (no, that's not
a contradiction).

93 93/93
Bill Heidrick

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