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To: alt.magick From: heidrick@well.com (Bill Heidrick) Subject: Re: Note to Nick Farrell Date: 11 Nov 1996 03:11:24 GMT zirdo@ramhb.co.nz (Pat Zalewski) writes: >Well JAE, Francis told us both the same story and lo and behold something else >pops up where he is now 9th degree OTO. I am afraid if the information >supplied is correct, then we have caught Francis out on a whopper. He has done >the exact opposite with the 5=6. I trust Bill Hiedrick, and any information he >gives on this issue is like money in the bank as far as I am concerned. If he >says regardie is 9th degree OTO then I accept it totally. The only problem is >that Francis would never admit it and flat out denied it. Actually, all I said is that Francis provided a photocopy of a postal card from Crowley to Francis, which used the IXth degree salutation. One may guess what it meant, but in itself it means little. Since Francis obviously knew the secret anyway, based on other information, and since we would have been delighted to have had him as a member of any degree short of Xth in OTO, we offered to regularize. He turned that down politely. Personally, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that Crowley wrote him down for the degree someplace. Likewise, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Francis declined or passed over such an offer in silence. All I get from this is that AC thought highly of Francis at the time of writing the card. The IXth degree salutation after all is just a triadic honorific and does not explicitly say "IXth degree". It is a little unusual see an address of "T.H., T.I. and T.I. Brother" without something of that, but we've used it to test people who claimed to the IXth from Crowley's days. Francis knew what it meant. 93 93/93 Bill Heidrick
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