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To: alt.philosophy.taoism From: taip0003@tc.umn.edu (Kaisa) Subject: Re: wu-wei Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 00:12:57 GMT zhoubu@ix.netcom.com(Miller Jew) wrote: >ref: Subject: Re: wu-wei >gclind01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (George C. Lindauer) wrote: >Kaisa (taip0003@tc.umn.edu) wrote: >>Is it harder to use the principle of wu-wei or not to? ... >In a bit of a tome, I think it's harder to use Wu-Wei because our >physical body/brain system is more evolved to our earth's physical body >system. Because imho every *thing* has a spiritual Life innate in it, >in trying to express itself through some*thing* its literally a >'trying effort' when initially induced, like -- trying to levitate >when the earth's trying to keep your physical body gravitationally >down (( nonono... bad example, we already levitated this succesfully >with astronauts :-)) Or-- kinda of like extolling a biblical expression >(about) the 'war between heaven and hell', but that's another story... >okayokay... a (ft) -- (and back down)... >I.e. Wu Wei-ing's harder because our physical-organic system obeys the >ebb and flow of the earth's natural movements more efficiently than it >does our spiritual domain's that are also inherent in our earth Life, >but the former is more evolutionarily developed in it's physical >stature than its spiritual counterpart. So this nascent tugging is >sorta like that urge we feel we must aspire to, but to what avail? >Since there's not yet a maturation of the physical/brain organics >development (see below), the higher spiritual nature of our Life >attempting to express itself through our earth Life (and our other >earth kingdoms) through our earth organics components is more difficult >-- yet Taoism can help guide us through this more exquisite approach. >Kaisa: >>Does it get easier with practice? >Yes. >David: >>wu-wei is an absence of something... to use is a presence of >>something. The two are kind of opposites... >Overall agreed. In a roundabout way, there is an absence yet it is not >absent, it is coordinated by an expanded presence on its former >control. >In Chinese, Wu Wei literally means no action: Wu (no) Wei (action). >Imho, it's basically an intuitive way of going about one's daily >activities instead of following the rational, emotional, and physical >activities --> not that these three are denied but superceedingly >coordinated by our intuitive functioning. In a bit here, I believe >more accurately --than calling Wu Wei an exclusive non-interference or >no willful action expression--or worse? passive-- it is the >coordinated control of our dynamic intuitive faculty that makes the >'interference' or willful actions no longer our coordinates, rather >our intuition takes coordinated control. Hence 'no-action'/ Wu Wei of >the mental/emotional/physical counterparts; they are now controlled by >our intuitive understanding and it's affective 'spontaneous' (or >better --> synthetic) processing through these components. Overall Wu >Wei denotes the stage where w/man's will upon these now-lesser >controllers ceases to operate, while h/her Tao begins its natural and >spontaneous flow through them, and manifests its innate freedom. >Hence in the TTC and a commentary re Wu Wei and our internal earth >kingdoms: >"In love the people and ruling the state, >Can you practice Wu Wei?" >"In loving the people (our internal humanity) and ruling the state >((ruling) our organic mental/emotional/physical states)) >Can you practice Wu Wei (our intuitive acuity on them)?" >Regards, >--Zhou >(and the) ft: >"The genius and the mortal instruments >Are in council; and the state of man, >Like to a little kingdom, suffers then >The nature of an insurrection." >--Shakespeare ("Hamlet") Ah! Thank you! I realized after I posted this that I didn't quite phrase it right, but this is what I was looking for. (The other responses were good too, just not answering the question I meant but didn't quite say right :). I try to practice wu-wei, but sometimes it seems that it's easier to approach things the way I always approach them because change is hard, and I'm not used to wu-wei. I suppose it's not a question of adding wu-wei but of taking off all the other learned behaviors. Taking out the dams to the flow of Tao :) ? Have a very good day or night or whatever! Kaisa
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