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To: alt.magick.tantra From: rball84213@aol.com (Richard Ballard) Subject: Re: Should 'initiates " be prepared? Date: 05 Nov 1999 06:35:01 GMT catherine yronwodewrites: >Sukrta wrote: >> < > >> >> > Are you implying a form of unconscious >> >compulsion in the student? > >No. Not at all. I am saying that sexual predators often choose >religious garb as a way to gain the confidence of their victims. I have observed that magickal or mystical garb can serve the same purpose. >> > Others say that, if a guru is 'real >> >guru', they will know of the students inner compulsions and >> >not allow them to be misguided by them. > >Blah blah blah. > >> >(the term 'real guru' suggests the opposite - "unreal guru' >> >Maya ! All is Maya !) > >:-) "Maya" can be translated as "the great illusion through which consciousness manifests itself as matter in continuous flux". In a sense we all are maya, because we are in transition continuously. This transition makes us vulnerable and open to manipulation. Maya does not always land upon its feet. < > >If your assumptions about how random people will intersect >with supposed gurus cannot encompass *reality*, then of what >practical use are your assumptions? > >In my experience, what often happens after i say things such as those >above (note that i am not assuming that this will be your reaction, and >i hope it will NOT be) those who have had "fortunate births" into >trustworthy families and are thus primed to accept the trustworthiness >of gurus as surrogate parents will begin giving me advice or put-downs >right out of thee Hindu caste system -- the whole "your unfortunate >birth which means that you don't automatically trust or accept your guru >indicates that you were bad in a previous lifetime because nobody has >such a childhood unless they DESERVE it through past karma." > >And at that point i dismiss the entire schtick as an endless replay of >the "blame the victim" caste system that i am working against on all >planes, not merely on the religio-mystical one. > >'Nuff said. I'd only add that an individual's *first* untrustworthy experience can be both educational and unfortunate. >> And, of course, there's no reason to assume that one's guru is going >> to be any of these things. > >I did not say that. What i tried to convey is that automatic trust in a >guru is one major cause of problems among disciples. 'Nuff said. Best wishes. Richard Ballard CNA4 KD0AZ
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