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To: alt.satanism From: Craig Lee HuntSubject: Re: question on satanist and setanist Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 19:00:50 -0700 On 18 Oct 1994, DMONGRL wrote: > Dear Craig, > I can only go by what Mr.Aquino ( the founder of the Temple of Set, whom I > think should know) says and posts on this newsgroup. Mr.Aquino, in case > you missed it, just recently said "We do worship Set"...I'm not the only > one in this newsgroup who saw it. Is the "Temple Of Set" really this > disorganized where the sheep do no know what their sheperd intends for them > to be doing? You seem to be a vaguely intelligent young man, which makes me > wonder why you choose to waste your time worshipping Set. > True enough, I am new to this newsgroup, but I speak from nearly five years experience in the ToS. Never in that time have I read or witnessed anything that I would consider "worship". (If you can produce such an article from Dr. Aquino, E-mail it to me. I'm one of those annoying skeptics who have to "see" to really beleive.) In any case, I suppose its possible for the word "worship" to have different connotations to different people, or perhapse it was a poor choice of wording altogether. It is for such errors that erasers are included with pencils. > > The Set religion is based on secrecy and mysticism...the higher you get in > "Levels", the more "knowledge" available to you....etc. > Actually, we have "degrees", based on the CoS degree system. They do not confer "knowledge" upon the bearer. Real knowledge comes only with experience and practical application of that experience. It has been my observation that the degree system is really intended to support the Temple as a structure. III degree and above have special responsibilities to the Tos organization to make certain that it continues to function smoothly and provide support for its membership. As for "mysticism", what precicely do you mean by "mysticism"? All the information directly relevent to ones growth as a Black Magician can be found in Black Magic in Theory and Practice, the most vital section of the Crystal Tablet. This is (my opinion, of course) flat out, the best book on magic I have ever seen. Perhapse less stylish in ways than LeVey's Bible, but more precice and of an infinitly larger scope. What more would a person need on which to build a foundation? This, I remind you, is given to every first degree setian upon admission to the ToS. > > Well, I really don't consider Setians, Satanists for the mere fact that > they worship Set....and Satanists don't worship any dieties and we have no > "Temples" Yes, yes...It is presicely the same everywhere you go. It is always so much easier to divide up a beleif system and lunge at one anothers throats than it is to examine the similarities. In th middle ages the Catholics would hang Protestants, protestants would roast Anabaptists, all over (what to us) seem like trivial differences in opinion. "Do angels have bellybuttons?" "Should a person be immersed when baptized, or will sprinkilg suffice". The more things change, the more they stay the same. Personally, I regard the our difference in opinion over the literal existance of Set as just that...a difference in opinion. What is more important to me is is our common ideal of personal godhood and the exploration of the "Netherrealms". > I have no need to > nor would I go around just spouting lies about people and their cults, I > get it straight from the source and Mikey seems to be the best one to ask > about the TOS and it's beliefs...It's sad that he failed to tell many of > his followers that they do (or should) be worshipping Set as a diety.....As > there appears to be a lot of confusion floating around about this topic. > First, I would caution you about your rather free usage of the word "cult". That very word was on the lips of religious demagogues all over the country in the 1980's as they tried to smash the Satanic movement. You claim to be a Satanist, and that is what the vast majority of people out there consider you to be; a "cultist" of the very worst kind! It is just a highly emotionally charged word that essencially means "A group of people I dissagree with." As for whether we are the "sheep" or "followers" of Dr. Aquino--This is not a "Cult of Personality" Our allegiance lies with ourselves, the Temple of Set, and with the entity to whom it belongs. Not with any individual. Dr. Aquino has been a fine example for us us and has shed a great deal of light on some dark subjects. He has helped us through some trying times. However, if by some disaster we were to lose Dr. Aquino, the ToS would continue to rumble along. But enough about the Temple, Demongirl. Let me ask you a question or two about yourself! You obviously feel a great deal of hostility toward a group of people who dont quite beleive what you proffess. What is the reason for this. I speculate it is what psych types call "overcompensation"; a strong, often violent reaction to an inner conflict, intended to overcome self-doubt or an insecurity. It is projected outward at a target the subject subconsciously feels represents the "bad" side of the conflict. Or perhapse you feel the Temple is threatening to the CoS structure you so highly prise. Why dont you let me know. (and please, no superficial complaints about Dr. Aquino, Temple structure or Set.) If your reasons are too personal to post--E-Mail me at craigh@gladstone.uoregon.edu. All correspondence will be private and confidential. With that, I bid you goodnight. Hope to hear from you (or anyone else) soon. --Mr Scratch > >
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