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Spells, the Devil, and Witches

To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.satanism,alt.witchcraft,alt.traditional.witchcraft,alt.pagan.magick,alt.religion.wicca
From: lorax666 
Subject: Re: Spells, the Devil, and Witches
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 19:55:31 GMT

50021101 VII om Hail Satan!

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>>> [do] all these spells have to do with the devil?
 
friar fuck:
>> yes, ultimately. all magic and occultism is wild nature working its
>> way in the world

for wild nature informs the true will and energizing enthusiasm.

Crowfoot :
> No.  There is no devil.  There is no god.  There's us.

what does the god have to do with the wild nature? it escapes to
the corners of the globe trembling in terror while the god causes
all manner of humans to decimate it. if there is no longer any
devil, let us hope that the traces of the god disappear also. 

>>> if you are a witch do u go 2 hell?
>> 
>> you are just as impermanent and immaterial as is hell, so sure.
>
> There is no hell....

my point exactly, though one may apply the term to modern society.

> except for the imaginings of souls that have 
>spent their immediate lifetime imbibing this kind of poisonous
>nonsense and beliveing it; 

minds imagine, and then cease with the flesh.

>they cobble up a vision of "hell" for themselves according to 
>the beliefs ingrained in them, until they become so bored with 
>it that they let it go, 

agreed.

>and then enter into the true discarnate experience between lives.

no such monkey. there is no spirit without flesh. it is a lie,
or a misperception.

>>> if you are a witch do u go 2 hell?
>> 
>> witches are servants of Satan in a very substantial sense: 
>
> No, they are not, though they may believe themselves to be.  

I'm more optimistic than you. I have a hope that witches will
aggregate toward ecological concerns more fervently over time
and come together as a cooperative political body in support
of Satan (the wild). religious of various types are coming to
the conclusion that this is the virtuous path, and I agree.

>lives designed to permit you to pay the karma you have incurred, 
>and these may indeed resemble hell.

karma (action) isn't incurred, it is done, or the responsibility
for it is used to foster the notion of a self which perpetuates.
this self is further projected as a ghost sustained post-mortem.

>> the most powerful witches always get escorted to the Underworld
>> with a Big Fanfare! Late Of Pablo Fanque's Faire! What A Scene!
>> the Four Underworld Archangels manifest, there's the Shade Dance,
>> and the entirety disappears into a cave! it's spectacular! 'course
>> it all happens on the spiritual plane only, normals can't see it.
>> every one enters the anarchistic spendour of the Faerie in joy.
>
> Love this idea, though -- and the images that come with it.  Thanks!

thank you! while I don't believe it is true, I sometimes entertain
the fantasy and vision and have enjoyed entering into trance and
visiting the Faerie with kindred in the South SF Bay, dedicating
ourselves to a healthy relation with The Good People.

blessed beast!

lorax666
 nagasiva@luckymojo.com

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