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To: zazas-l@hollyfeld.org (ZAZAS-L Satanist Elist) From: tyagi@houseofkaos.abyss.com (nocTifer) Subject: (Z) OrgSatanism, Trapezoids (was CoS Elist...) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 13:59:43 -0800 (PST) [from satanist-l@necronomi.com: black bourbon] [received permission to repost; slight reformatting for readability] On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, nocTifer wrote: > 49971125 aa2 Hail Satan! > > # the first things I did on entering the church was ask Peggy about the > # hierarchy and process for selecting a new high priest. > > is this information available such that you could presently explain > ...? ...I'd like to get several versions into the heaven archives > for posterity and history. we can take up a discussion of all the > bits I was asking about so long ago. The church still, to my knowledge, does not give any explanation of hierarchy to members. The basic outlines are quite simple. There are registered members, who've payed their $100 lifetime membership fee, but have no other necessary active involvement with the church; there are the Active Members, who must send in an application form to obtain such status; then, there are Priests, then Magisters, and finally the High Priest. The Order of the Trapezoid essentially is the designation of the Magisters and Magistras as a body, while the Council of Nine consists of nine Magisters and High Priestesses selected by the High Priest as the governing body of the Church. All ranks are bestowed by the High Priest. There is also a Grotto system, recently re-implemented, which is independant of the hierarchy and consists of local groups centered around a Grotto Leader. Grotto Leaders apply for their position, and may be of any rank. Grotto Leaders are responsible for making yearly payments to Central based on the size of their Grotto, and are notified of any Active Members in their area. Involvement and membership in Grottos is entirely voluntary, regardless of where one lives. The function of the Council of Nine is to vote to expel members (usually at the behest of the High Priest), to consult with the High Priest, and to select a new High Priest in the event that the previous one passes away or retires. Apparently, Karla is now acting High Priest(ess) of the Church, although from what info I've received this was *not* done according to a decision of the Council, but on her own initiative as LaVey's heir, and with Barton's approval. LaVey was in the habit of making his girlfriends and daughters High Priestesses, which means essentially that they were extra-special Magistras; we'll see if Karla creates any "High Priests" amongst sons or mates. Effectively, the Church was LaVey's possession, despite even the very limited authority granted the Council in the Church's bylaws. It remains to be seen what will happen now. Yes, you can quote me on that, and if anyone knows anything more, or feels I'm mistaken on some point (I may well be), feel free to let me know. > # No-one ever even told me about any "Law of the Trapezoid" as having > # anything to do with the Order and the Council of Nine. Those were > # questions senior members like Peggy, Nemo, or Meinkmpf should have > # answered, but didn't as much to my bewilderment as yours. > > I have since found snippets in my wanderings, but I *really* love it if > you could now respond to these questions given your greater knowledge > after having entered into membership and honest inquiry to those knowing. > what do you think this Law is, how does it relate the bodies you mention? > this strikes me as the most pertinent discussion topic for all of the > modern Satanist orgs that participate in these mythotypes. If there is any correlation between any "Law of the Trapezoid" (LaVey has given a number of different interpretations of the signifiance of the trapezoid) and the functioning of the Church, it is entirely symbolic. As I'm sure you know, rank in the Church is granted according to material contributions, and the High Priest's estimation of one's loyalty, activism, and "Satanic" worth. There is no qualification system, as in the Temple of Set or most similar occult organizations. If you have any more specific questions, I *might* be able to give an answer. I'm off to lunch now, and then home for Thanksgiving, so I'm afraid I won't be able to read any e-mail until next Monday. -Jason "You shall become as gods." _______________________________________ University of Arizona poseyj@u.arizona.edu 1550 N Euclid Ave, #6 Tucson, AZ 85719 (520) 792-0767 ----- End of forwarded message from black bourbon ----- ____________...oooOOO---zazas-l@hollyfeld.org---OOOooo..._____________ To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe" to zazas-l-request@hollyfeld.org To unsubscribe your@email.com send "unsubscribe your@email.com" To subscribe send "subscribe" to zazas-l-request@hollyfeld.org http://www.hollyfeld.org/heaven
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