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To: alt.pagan,alt.religion.wicca,alt.wicca From: paghat@netscapeSPAM-ME-NOT.net (paghat) Subject: Re: Wicca a Strand of Christianity???? Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:49:10 -0800 In article <9pi3qv44rnf4812995kkfe87qgftaipu9g@4ax.com>, dh1@frontiernet.net.spam wrote: > On 30 Oct 2003 01:00:37 -0500, holzman@panix.com (Dan Holzman) wrote: > > >Have you got a citation for that quote, perchance? I can't find it in > >the online searchable Bibles I'm looking at. > > It is, I have been told, Part of the wiccan code. Christ says it like > this. . > 12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things > are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, > but I will not be brought under the power of any. > Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not > under the law, but under grace. > Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. > ?:? The greatest commandment is love for the whole of the law is > love. > > >>I have found no mystical body or mystery to the teachings of Christ. > >>Christ says, " I am a man like any man. Anything I do you can all > >>do." > > >I've asked you for a citation for this one as well. May I expect it > >soon? > > Soon? No I don't feel like looking it up. Next time I run across > it I will post it. > Even his earliest followers are quoted in Acts 2:22 as stating > that he was simply "a man singled out by God" . It was > only after his character was merged with the incarnate savior > god Christos of Paul's version of the Mystery > Religion that the GENTILE Christians started to explore ways > of stating that Jesus was some sort of divine being > > The man who has > found the authority of Christ within is no longer > subject to the authority of preacher, or church, > or state or the bible. He is no longer vulnerable > to be used as pawn for whatever evil that others > may wish him to commit. > > Michael " I am a man like any man. Anything I do you can all do" is certainly one of the world's worst paraphrases. Jesus said, in the apocryphal Gospel of Barnabus, "You have erred in calling me, a man, your God. I am a man, born of woman, subject to the judgement of God, suffering like other men." It is not a heretical work; it underscores that God of Torah states "Besides me, there is none." In any truly monotheistic context, it is a heresy to suggest Jesus is god (christianity with its trinity is the adversary of monotheism; it is wholeheartedly a strand of hellenistic paganism). The teaching in the Barnabus gospel likely grew out of medieval Islam, but it's all pretty much derived from the recognized christian gospels which actually make more sense when one realizes Jesus never actually claims to be god in any context greater than all of us being god -- he had no idea Paul (inspired by Tamuz worship in Tarsus where he lived a minority among pagans before sent off to school for a somewhat belated Jewish education) would turn Jesus into a God. Paul who never met that peasant reform rabbi Jesus, would take over the reform movement and send it among hellenists, promoting among pagans a vaguely judaized for of Tamuz worship.The pagan rabbi, were he able to assess such nonsense personally, would be horrified that he, a well-meaning Jew who wanted to help the poor and orphaned and widowed, was turned into a pagan divinity called Christos. But anyone REALY seeking a HIGH dose of paganis should just go to any ordinary christian church. The authentic teachings of Jesus apparently died on the Temple steps with the stoning of James the brother Jesus -- that initially Jewish reform movement went no further, and it what erupted in its place never again appealed to Jews because it was patent nonsense outside of the context of goyim (pagans), though utterly recognizable by pagans themselves. -paghat the ratgirl -- "Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher. "Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature. -from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers" See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/
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