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Thoughts on wicca...

To: alt.magick.tyagi
From: lightsarah@hotmail.com (Sarah L.)
Subject: Re: Thoughts on wicca...
Date: 8 Feb 2004 12:09:46 -0800

catherine yronwode  wrote in message news:<4012E9ED.DCD5D9B6@luckymojo.com>...
> seven wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 03:16:35 GMT, Raist  wrote:
>  
> > >Unfortunately, I would be inclined to think it *has* evolved, the way a
> > >gentleman's game of blackjack evolves into a Native American casino.
> > 
> > As bad as those things are for the First People, it is kind of an
> > ironic retribution, to have an active part in corrupting the society
> > that survived theirs.
> 
> Gaming is not "corrupting" per se. I respectfully suggest that
> you investigate the extremely important role gambling played in
> the culture of many Native tribes before the abstemious
> Protestants showed up and told them that gaming was "bad." 
> 
> Cordially,
> 
> cat yronwode 
> 
> Gamblers' Lucky Charms: http://www.luckymojo.com/gamblersluck.html

In my own region, this is definitely true, gaming is still important
to local Native folks, both as traditional bone games and modern
casinos. A few years back I, a non-native, was taught how to play a
bone game, by a Native college professor, and I've seen other folks
play them on the coast.
Some info here: http://www.squaxinisland.org/frames.html?pages/enterprises/casino/casino.html~siteContent
Brief useful mention here:
http://news.theolympian.com/150th/96237.shtml
Also:
http://www.cwis.org/fwdp/Americas/wwtreaty.txt
     
     Continued existence of viable Indian communities, 
     "tribes", "bands", and so on, is not dependent upon nor 
     coterminous with federal recognition. There may be 
     biological, cultural, and geographic continuity since pre-
     treaty times, as in the case of the Sauk-Suiattle, for 
     example, without federal recognition.  
     
          Continuing Indian identity is evidenced by (a) overt 
     traits of aboriginal Indian culture which continue into the 
     present (e.g., language, food preservation methods, games 
     such as lahal, the "bone game", winter dances with the 
     associated spiritual beliefs, art forms, kinship and social 
     links); (b) aboriginal forms which have been melded with 
     introduced ideas to create new, but uniquely Indian features 
     (e.g., the Shaker Church, Indian sweaters, and the modern 
     invention, the Coast Salish spinning device); and (c) 
     persistence of traditional knowledge and belief in the 
     importance of that knowledge (e.g., community histories, 
     location of fishing sites, myths, tales, and songs). This 
     knowledge is as relevant to Indian identity as the knowledge 
     of American history is to the "Americanism" of all of us.  

Above from Treaty Rights Workshop, Background of Treaty Making in
Western Washington, by Barbara Lane, PhD. Incredible work, worth
reading through to understand more fully the context and importance of
gaming.

Sarah Light

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