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To: alt.pagan From: raven@solaria.sol.net (Raven (J. Singleton)) Subject: Re: Christian witch Date: 17 Sep 1995 00:35:14 GMT William Hamilton (tigereye@iadfw.net) wrote: | raven@solaria.sol.net (Raven (J. Singleton)) wrote: | | >No, the Order of the Garter was formed by Edward III, about 400 years earlier. | >His comment, "Honi soit qui mal y pense", roughly "Shame to him who thinks | >evil of it", is the motto of the Order. The lady who dropped the garter was | >the Countess of Salisbury, and there is no indication that she (or Edward) | >had anything to do with witchcraft -- that was Margaret Murray's suggestion, | >but she saw witch-cults in history the way other people see faces in clouds. | | >Edward was simply rebuking the discourtesy of those who laughed at a lady's | >discomfiture; he thus put them in the position of either shutting up or else | >being found laughing at their King -- not a good career move for a courtier. | | Thank you: I my recollection of this felt vague, and your account | seems precisely correct. But to continue in vagueness, isn't there | now some speculation regarding the organization of the Order along | occult lines... also what is appearantly an alter found in a sealed | chamber, and some covert associations of Edward linking him to covens? | This could all be propogated speculation; it's just something I read | somewhere and should have forgotten. Perhaps you could put it to | rest. That's Margaret Murray's theory, again. Gardner adopted some of her ideas in his first book on Wicca, _Witchcraft_Today_ (for which Murray wrote the preface). Kartherine Kurtz's more recent novel _Lammas_Night_ also takes the Murray/Gardner version of history as given; read Murray's _The_God_of_ _the_Witches_ before or after Kurtz's novel, and you'll see that yourself. -- Raven @1414010 VirtualNET | "Forgive no error you recognize; it will @93:9089/0 PODSNet | repeat itself, increase, and afterward raven @solaria.sol.net | our pupils will not forgive in us raven1 @net-works.com | what we forgave." Yevgeny Yevtushenko
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