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Handparting Sex Rite?

To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.traditional.witchcraft,alt.wicca,talk.religion.misc,alt.religion.wicca
From: lorax666 
Subject: Handparting Sex Rite?
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 03:03:55 GMT

50030923 viii om happy kaos equinox fall day!

# Please excuse the intrusion, but I have a question.

your posting to alt.religion.wicca is liable to get a skewed
response (bard being an exception) because of the type of
Wiccans who may frequent that forum. you may wish to ask in
alt.pagan or some talk.religion group for more information.

# I am not of the Wiccan or Pagan faith, 

arguably faith isn't required to be either Wiccan or Neopagan.

# but my BF's wife is and their divorce will become final soon. 

then he should be able to inform you about the details, or be
able to refer you to someone who can (his initiator? an Elder?
someone with whom he and his soon-to-be-ex-wife circled?).

# I wondered if someone could tell me specifically what is 
# entailed in the hand parting ceremony (ritual?)

bard covered it well: a kind of reverse-rite of what may be
included in a handfasting (see those online; handparting
rites aren't as popular, just like unweddings aren't -- tho
my sister and I had one when we get a divorce and became
siblings :>).

# Is there any sex involved? 

that depends on what you include as sex and what you think
ought to be included in the aura or energy of a person.
it also depends on the particular people involved. 

for example, typically in a Wiccan rite *symbolic sex is
indeed involved*, with a Chalice and Dagger (Cup/Athame).
if a couple was really serious about their magic they may
well include sex as part of the rite, especially if the
handfasting included sex as part of it.

my guess is that like most unweddings, most will not,
except that if they're doing a Wiccan Great Rite then
sex will at least by symbolized. this arguably involves
the participants deep minds, auras, or whatever you'd
like to think is involved in rituals of this kind, and
so sometimes there is jealousy about circling with
others who might appear to be competition for relations.

since this is a parting you might not think of it that
way, especially since you aren't one of 'the faithful',
as you put it.

that said, I would be interested if I were you in knowing
who else was present at their handfasting and whether the
same people officiating (if any) were going to handpart,
or whether the final rite, so to speak, was going to be 
a simple rite between the divorcing couple.

when sri catyananda and I were mated, prior to the cosmic
Hieros Gamos of the False Millenium we celebrated, we were
given the blessing of our previous mates in a simple
ceremony, and you might also consider whether or not you
should have some part in receiving such a blessing or if
you should not have anything to do with it as it is cast
off of your boyfriend and left behind (getting involved
may in such a case be to your disadvantage).
# My BF is curious because she is making this a contingency 
# of the divorce. 

it is surprising that he wouldn't then know whether she
intends a final tryst of this sort. perhaps he should 
talk with her about what is to be included, do a little
planning, and let you in on any pertinent details?

# I would appreciate your help.

good luck with that, and blessed beast!


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