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CHLow: Dark/Light Neopaganism

To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.pagan,talk.religion.misc,alt.religion.christian,alt.satanism
From: (Lupo LeBoucher)
Subject: Re: CHLow: Dark/Light Neopaganism (Was Re: Dark roygbiv Light)
Date: 22 Jan 1996 18:09:08 -0600

In article ,
Dave Ondrejko  wrote:
>   Clifford Low  wrote:
>>That depends on your feelings about the Christian concept. Many folk have
>>noted the fact that despite renunciation of Christianity, people
>>unwittingly revert to Xian behavior/thought, especially if they rejected
>>Xianity for ethical reasons (and these people got their ethics from Xian
>>traditions in the first place). 
>Not sure what you mean here.  I'm not sure if I got my ethics from "Xian 
>traditions" unless you want to say that culture as a whole is a Xian tradition 
>-- which you could, defensibly, do.

One point that might be made;
An awful lot of what we view as "christian moralities" actually seems to 
originate from various Roman sources. These Roman traditions were 
certainly not the exclusive morality of the empire; perhaps certain sets 
of ethics were magnified in hindsight by the christian monks & 
philosophers who preserved the old Roman works -but they certainly existed.

Various late-Pagan Roman philosophers, such as the Emporer Marcus Aurelius, 
write in a style not unlike that of the Christians & the Stoic/Neoplatonist 
fundamentals of their philosophies generally overlap. In fact, church 
fathers were fond of referring to some of these as "holy pagans" or some 
such rubbish.

Personally I like the distinctions Tani/Phil makes in the philosophies; 
I find Marcus Aurelius as repulsive as a Constantine (one of the things I 
find  useful in their ideas -rather than making a _symbolic_ distinction, 
they make a more fundamental philosophical  distinction).
Give me Heraclitus or Diogenes over humorless drones like Plato or Seneca 

Walter occasionally posts an amusing conspiracy theory asserting that   
Xianity was actually a plot to subvert Judaism from within in order to 
instill it with more "Roman virtues."


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