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To: soc.religion.paganism,alt.religion.wicca
Subject: Re: Wiccan Tradition Distinction?
Date: 24 Aug 1996 00:19:28 -0500

I speak as a Gardnerian with some experience in other Trads:

Thomas Hrouda ( wrote:
: I'm curious, what exactly are the differences between Garnerian and
: Alexandrian Wicca.  For that matter is there a difference between the
: Garnerians, the Alexandrians, Dianics, the Cunnigham, Conway traditions.
: Buckland?

Alexandrian is descended from the Gardnerian, and is quite similar in 
ritual structure.  Buckland is an old Gardnerian, whose books teach 
systems based on that one, with his own twists.  Dianic Wicca is all 
female, all Goddess-centerd.  Few Dianics seem to even acknowledge the 
God.  What I have read of Cunnigham looks quite New Age and somewhat 
fluffy to me.  However, I am not an expert on him.  Some of his stuff is 
very useful.  Don't know about Conway.

: Is there a nutshell explanation, or is it a secret.  Is the difference in
: Ritual or Ceremony, Philosophy, Structure? Just a series of Family
: Squabbles.

The nutshell answer to all of those questions is, "Yes."  There are 
differences in Ritual wordings and gestures.  Differences in Ritual 
order.  Differences in basic philosophies and kinds of magic used.  SOme 
have degree systems, some don't.  In some, the HPS and HP are the 
leaders, and in some, everybody takes their turn as HPS/HP.  That can 
even vary from coven to coven within a Trad, and in a coven, from one 
Ritual to the next.   Some covens operate with a rigid heirarchy.  Others 
of the same Trad don't.   My sister wears a panty girdle.  I wear cotton 
briefs.  We both cover our backsides, but we do it differently.

: What about the new stuff, what Tradition would Starhawk's Spiral Dance be,
: Ravenwolf's (sp?) To Ride A Silver Broomstick (?)?

I don't know about Ravenwolf, but Starhawk started as a member of the 
Faerie Trad, I think, and has developed the Reclaiming Trad from there.  
Faerie is the creation of Victor Andersen, who goes back pretty far, not 
as far as Gardner.  For more on it, use a seach engine to find the Web 
Page of Francesca Dubie.

: Anyone?

Anyone else?  More info needed, here.  Somebody fill in the blanks, 
and/or correct anywhere I'm off.



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