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Path: typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail From: nagasiva@luckymojo.com (xiwangmu) Newsgroups: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick,alt.magick.tantra,alt.magick.sex,alt.religion.sexuality Subject: The Supreme Secret(s) of (c)OTO: Sex Magic(k)? Organization: Sonoma Interconnect,Santa Rosa,CA(us),http://www.sonic.net Lines: 184 Sender: yronwode@sonic.net Message-ID: <8kmbqf$fs@bolt.sonic.net> References:Reply-To: spam@luckymojo.com X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.4 (NOV) Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 06:25:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.201.224.36 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sonic.net X-Trace: typhoon.sonic.net 963555921 208.201.224.36 (Thu, 13 Jul 2000 23:25:21 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 23:25:21 PDT Xref: typhoon.sonic.net alt.magick.tyagi:24419 alt.magick:202899 alt.magick.tantra:16267 alt.magick.sex:85634 alt.religion.sexuality:41718 500007 "hooramentii" : >You posted some links on thelema93-l about secret OTO magick. I lost them >due to having to goback on my computer. Would you mind posting them here? pleased to serve, Orig-Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 19:55:44 -0700 (PDT) SPOILER o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o the following material may contain the supreme secret of the OTO and may thus prove offensive to those who are attempting to keep themselves 'virgin' of said supremacies prior to their initiation through more conventional channels (such as in their Order). you are hereby forewarned and I suggest that if you don't want to be exposed to such information (or approximates thereof) that you bypass the followups to the thread which this posting creates. o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o+o SPOILER 50000704 Vom Hail Satan! Happy Independence! do as you please. what else? > From: "Jeroen Hoogeweij" > I think he is talking about the "magical record of the beast 666", published > by Duckworth in 1972, edited by Grant and Symonds. (heheh.... I bought a > first print very cheaply). It contains "Rex de arte regia", mainly or > exclusively dealing with his sexual operations... very funny bits 'n pieces > about him being inspired to write the Arte Magica, Homunculus, Natura Deorum > and Nuptiis secretis in a row: The 6th of september 1912 he performed the > ceremony thrice with a 'sturdy bitch', a prostitute from Picadilly circus. > Shorty afterwards he ad a trombosis of the left leg , which provided him > with enough time to write those documents> > > Also included the magical record of the beast (1919-1920), containing a lot > of rambling, and wonderful insights and reflections, lots and lots of drug > taking. thanks for the reference. comments on the following would be welcomed: http://www.luckymojo.com/tantra/neo-tantra/ny199612elixir2.txt http://www.luckymojo.com/tantra/neo-tantra/ny199612elixir4.txt to wit: Over a period of almost half a century during which Crowley taught his Magic -- a synthetic mystical/magical system which could well be described as Neognosticism -- he wrote many inspirational and/or didactic works which he called *Libres*. Some of these are full length books, others little more than half a page or so text. Of these the ones which can legitimately be considered at least quasi-tantric are five in number. They are: "Of the Art of Magic" "Of the Nature of the Gods" "Of the Homunculus" "The Book of the Unveiling of the Sangraal" "Of the Secret Marriages of Gods and Men" ... Notable amongst [Crowley's] innovations [which seem to have no oriental analogues] was an autoerotic technique which he expounded denerally in the *Liber* entitled "Of the Secret Marriages of Gods and Men", and, more particularly, in the chapter of that work called 'Of Great Marriages'. When examing the text of this and Crowley's other tantric *Libres* it must be held in mind that, like many other tantric treatises, they employ a 'twilight language' in which words are given a secondary, tantric significance. It is very easy, however, to break Crowley's code. Thus in the 'Great Marriages' chapter of "Of the Secret Marriages", referred to above in relation to autoeroticism, the word 'purge' is not used in its primary excretory sense but in reference to orgasm. Similarly, in the eleventh chapter of the same work, the phrase 'Evocation by the Wand' means an act of masturbation in which the operator's imaginary partner is an immaterial entity such as an angel. The 'Marrow of the Wand', referred to in the same chapter, simply means sexual fluids. The code words and phrases employed to express the sexual concepts in both the tantric *Libres* and Crowley's more general writings were often derived from the terminology of Western alchemy. Thus Crowley used the archaic word for an alchemical furnace (athanor) as a code word for the penis, while the word 'cucurbite', a piece of laboratory equipment used by alchemists for the purpose of distillation, he used as a code word for the vulva. The male sexual discharge was referred to in the tantric *Libres* as 'the serpent' or 'the blood of the red lion', phraes which in texts concerned with physical alchemy, of the type conducted in a laboratory, refer to metallic salts. Similarly the fluids which lubricate the vagina were referred to as the 'menstruum of the gluten', while the mixture of this with semen Crowley called 'the First Matter' and, after it had supposedly been imbued with magical powers by the processes outlined in the tantric *Libres*, 'the Elixir'. These alchemical words and phrases were not arbi- trarily chosen. Crowley believed, rightly or wrongly, that many Western alchemical texts were concerned, not with chemical processes intended to produce a mysterious stone which could transmute base metals into gold, but with sexual techniques, essentially identical with those of the left-handed Tantra, the use of which would result in psychic transmutation. Such a variant of European alchemy, a sort of Western Tantra, *may* have existed. As was said earlier, polarity symbolism is apparent in many alchemical texts, and it seems probable that at least some alchemists were concerned with interior transformations rather than the physical transmutations desired by alchemical laboratory workers [333: "puffers"! :>]. It is possible that a few of these 'psychic alchemists', a minority of a minority, practised something very like Tantra, interpreting alchemical polarity symbolism in a semi-literal way [333: although the author will not provide us with any evidence to back this up]. [author's] NOTE: Those who wish to examine the tantric *Libres* for themselves will find the text of "Of the Art of Magic" printed as an appendix to "Crowley on Christ" (London, 1974). Versions of the other tantric *Libres* are printed in "The Secret Rituals of the OTO" (London and New York, 1973) [333: about which there has been so much clamour of late on this and other 'Thelemic' email lists ;>]. ------------------------------------------------------ "Tantra for Westerners", Francis King, Destiny Books, 1986; pp. 74-6. ______________________________________________________ I encourage all subscribers who have access to said materials to provide their paraphrases and reviews for the enjoyment of our readership who may be interested in them, with a proper !!SPOILER!! as I have prepended above so as to adequately forewarn those interested in maintaining their intellectual 'virginity' (so to speak). compare with the form offered in this brief and extemporaneous review of "Liber A'ash vel Capricorni Pneumatici sub figura CCCLXX" contained at this URL: http://www.luckymojo.com/tantra/neo-tantra/ny199612elixir3.txt the idea is to describe and discuss without the technicalities of direct quotation which may draw legal pressure from the (c)OTO Boys to remove the post on account of quotation. making the content of these "secrets" well-known through exposition, we have the capacity to divulge to the world what this (c)OTO actually values and instructs without getting in the way of its legal department [1]. ;> blessed beast! ______________________________________________________________________________ ((333) nigris) nagasiva@luckymojo.com - http://www.luckymojo.com/nagasiva.html NOTICE: I don't read everything here; cc me if you absolutely want a response. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [* -- you may presume that, between Andrew and I, we're not going to leave any direct quotes that will give the (c)OTO Boys any reason to send us one of their threatening letters. ;> ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- mailto:nagasiva@luckymojo.com ; http://www.luckymojo.com/nagasiva.html mailto:boboroshi@satanservice.org ; http://www.satanservice.org/ emailed replies may be posted; cc replies if response desired
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