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Path: ultra.sonic.net!news From: nagasiva@luckymojo.com (nagasiva) Newsgroups: alt.magick.tantra,alt.lucky.w,alt.magick.tyagi,talk.religion.misc Subject: Tantra and Luck (was Love initiates prepared) Date: 6 Nov 1999 10:51:22 -0800 Organization: Sonoma Interconnect,Santa Rosa,CA(us),http://www.sonic.net Lines: 41 Message-ID: <801tba$lnu@bolt.sonic.net> References: <381BC4ED.822928A2@ozemail.com.au> <7vic1f$12j6$1@nnrp9.crl.com> <381F6FCD.3994@luckymojo.com> <38200E9E.D3950A8F@ozemail.com.au> <7vpdpu$1ksr$1@nnrp9.crl.com> <38212F47.A2D053B2@ozemail.com.au> <7vs3v9$18mn$1@nnrp9.crl.com> <3822F706.681DA143@ozemail.com.au> <7vvu2e$18b$1@nnrp9.crl.com> <38238BC8.2DEF2768@ozemail.com.au> Reply-To: spam@luckymojo.com NNTP-Posting-Host: bolt.sonic.net X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) Xref: ultra.sonic.net alt.magick.tantra:13139 alt.lucky.w:6183 alt.magick.tyagi:20524 talk.religion.misc:300925 49991106 IVom Matimaan: #> What is it that makes these aspirants "lucky" in your eyes? mdhjwh: # Anyone finding a soul compatible with theirs is lucky, although # some assert that in such things are just rewards (karma?). karma is typically associated with cause and effect. the cause are one's choices in life, the effect is dependent upon a cosmic, deity-derived, or personal morality which sets demerits and merits on particular behaviors, circumstantial response, or intentionality. often this is connected with the notion of reincarnation or rebirth, in that the merits and demerits apply toward the station of birth to which one is destined. luck is also divided into 'good' and 'bad' like karma, though it is less often associated with moral repercussion and more often the result of some magical or divine activity. while you may 'earn good karma', good luck is usually obtained by spell, adulation of a favoring supernatural being, initiating it with some particular act like tossing coins into well, or acquiring some charm or amulet as a kind of luck battery or magnet. both luck and karma can be seen as fluids, energies or substances, though karma is usually not attached to objects as in charms. luck isn't so much a reward, as you say, as much as a result of entering a 'zone' or enveloping oneself with some aura of fortune. tantrics probably have all manner of attitude toward luck, while karma is likely quite a popular notion. those who think that the gods control the cosmos aside from the aspirant may equate karma with luck in a way, while those who consider the atman and brahman the only reality may consider both luck and karma to be illusions. nagasiva -- mailto:nagasiva@luckymojo.com (nagasiva); mailto:boboroshi@satanservice.org TOKUS: http://www.satanservice.org/ http://www.luckymojo.com/nagasiva.html notification: I may post any email replies; cc me if some response desired.
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