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To: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.zen From: nedludd@ix.netcom.com(Ned Ludd) Subject: Re: Ts'ao-shan (was .. Date: 10 Mar 1999 03:24:54 GMT In <36E591E5.C2A134C2@worldnet.att.net> tjnwrites: Ned: > Hold on a minute, the standard Japanese negation, ie. the answer > 'no' to any incorrect question, such as "Is one plus one three?" - > is that word "mu" in Japanese? Toshu: > no it is not. > Japanese characters have 2 pronunciations. one is a truly Japanese > reading and the other is after the old Chinese style. for instance > the character for mountain is "yama" in the Japanese reading and > "zan" in the Chinese reading. in current Chinese it is pronounced > "shan". > to answer your question: > Japanese: "Iie" (sounds like eeyeh). the character has the Chinese > style reading reading "Hi" (sounds like English pronoun "he"). > the character that is pronounced "mu" in Japanese has more the > meaning "lacking", "without", "nothing". it is definitely not a > simple negation. the translations that render it so are > editorializing. > Well, here's the long version from Green's translation of Record of Chao-chou, where Chao-chou says "not", and also "why not": A monk asked, "Does a dog have a Buddha nature or not?" Chao-chou said, "Not [Mu]!" The monk said, "Above to all the Buddhas, below to the crawling bugs, all have Buddha-nature. Why is it that the dog has not?" Chao-chou said, "Because he has the nature of karmic delusions." - Record of Chao-chou, #132
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