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Robert Thurmans Slightly Demented Vision

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From: "Gileht.com" 
Subject: Re: Robert Thurmans Slightly Demented Vision
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 10:31:23 -0400

"Lee Love"  a écrit dans le message de news:
am229l$t6j$1@nn-tk105.ocn.ad.jp...
>
> "Evelyn Ruut"  wrote in message
> news:oW1g9.13872$17.6471288@newsfeed1.thebiz.net...
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> > "punnadhammo"  wrote in message
> > news:120920020934049285%arcc@CLIPTHIS_baynet.net...
> > >
> > >
> > > > I once heard Prof. Robert Thurman give a talk, and in it he
> > > >said that "emptiness" might just as well be translated as
> > > >"everythingness"  and that would be just as accurate.
>
> I once heard Thurman speak too.   He translated for Tara Tulku Rinpoche at
> MZMC.     I heard Thurman translate or Rinpoche, that Nagarjuna said,
>
>         "Because of shunyata (emptiness), all Things are possible.
>
> maitri,
>
> --
> Lee Love

That was in aswer to an opponent that was saying that things must be
inherently existing otherwise nothing would work, and there would be no
possible path and Liberation.

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Nagarjuna's Karikas Chapter 24:

14. When emptiness "works", then everything in existence "works".
If emptiness "does not work", then all existence "does not work".

19. Since there is no dharma whatever originating independently,
No dharma whatever exists which is not empty.

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It means that the two Truths, like dependent origination and emptiness, are
inseparable, non-dual: not two, not one. One implies the other.

Everything is empty of inherent existence because dependently arisen;
everything is dependently arisen because empty of inherent existence.

Gileht

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