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To: alt.religion.orisha,alt.religion.voodoo From: "tribble"Subject: Clearing the Path for more Vodou Commercialism. Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 14:30:04 -0600 If one accessed alt.Wicca in the early 1990's you could experience Maeve69 arguing with Alan_Acacia about the validity of the other's alleged Gardnerian initiatory line. These types of flame (aka ego) wars erupted constantly and were usually based wholly in commercialism. One witch was always trying to prove to the masses that he/she was the top, best, biggest, most powerful, most authentic Witch on the net in order to capture more customers online. I am so happy to see that the ATR scene has finally caught up. It's obvious to everyone that most of the bickering that occurs on this group is an attempt to establish authority over a given religion from which a profit stands to be made. It's becoming more and more senseless every day. Some folk's motivations are blantantly transparent and soon no one will be buying anything from anybody. Furthermore, several Oungans and Mambos are going to be launching their respective web presence in coming months - offering services including initiation. In order to keep up, it will take those who seek to gain customers by maligning the competition an entire week to go through the list of people who need to be discredited and insulted. In the interest of clearing the path so that everybody can get their "thing" on and sell as much Vodou as they possibly can, I want to address a few issues that have been bantered about lately. Since Houngan Aboudja is no longer posting on this group, he will probably not be responding to Mambo Racine's allegations. It's not really my place to discuss his personal business in a public forum. However, for my sanity I am willing to write a few things on this subject to bring it some closure (hopefully): Houngan Aboudja and Mambo Michele did recouche. How do I know? 1. I can verify that Omo Esu Olorun Matabunde Fasi is not Aboudja, nor a member of his house. I met him at Mambo Marie's house in NY state and can verify that what he was told was indeed said in a room full of people. 2. Kevin Filan (on this forum) has verified that Omo Esu Olorun Matabunde Fasi is not Houngan Aboudja nor a member of his house. 3. I provided Houngan Aboudja and Mambo Michele airport transportation for their trip. I know what they left with and what they came back with. This includes certain items that one would acquire only in Haiti - only for a kanzo. I saw their plane tickets. I tracked their plane online (a flight from Haiti to Miami to New Orleans) and they arrived in New Orleans on that flight. I have seen the stamps in both of their passports from the trip. Lastly, I provided Aboudja with a list of items I wanted from Haiti and he brought them back to me. 4. I scooped cat shit from a litter box at Mambo Michele's home every other day for over two weeks. I came into her home and Aboudja's home every other day over this period of time - at all hours of the day and night to feed pets and collect mail. If they were in town they went to great lengths to fool me. For the recordm (beforeit is suggested), I am not Aboudja - Nor am I Mambo Michele. I have been running a Metaphysical supply store since 1990 which has been online over 3 years. I invite anyone to contact me via phone or email. I also invite anyone from this list to my home in the Marigny (a few blocks from Island of Salvation Botanica) IN New Orleans. I will make you a cup or coffee or tea and we can cordially discuss anything I have said here. I will also provide these persons with evidence that the Mount Carmel Botanica does exist - including a receipt for items I purchased there this month. My shop number is easy enough to find on the net. If you can't figure it out - email me! If Mambo Racine would like to send either of her New Orleans based initiates to me, I would be pleased to show them these items and my shop which is open by appointment only. We can also call Mambo Marie at the Mount Carmel Botanica from my phone (at my expense) so that this confusion does not persist. I anticipate that Mambo Racine will use the "well Mambo Marie told me" excuse to continue this discussion. I cannot speak to why one would mislead or lie to/about the other. I can speculate but only validate what I heard, saw and know. By the way, where are our resident fact checkers and ace investigative reporters when we need them? I haven't heard a peep from any of them on this issue. Maybe they exhausted themselves with OmiJuba? Everyone must accept that two houses of Vodou currently exist in New Orleans - Kay Aboudja and Sallie Ann Glassman's. I anticipate that Mambo Racine would like to open one in the future through her resident initiates. I also know that a NYC Mambo has plans to open a peristyle here soon. There is room for everyone and no need for continued backbiting. Those who provide the most effective services to the community will last the longest. Blessings, Tribble -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! Check out our new Unlimited Server. No Download or Time Limits! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! ==-----
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