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To: alt.traditional.witchcraft,alt.lucky.w
From: catherine yronwode
Subject: Re: love spells
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:27:09 GMT
Gargoyle wrote:
>
> catherine yronwode wrote:
>
> >??? wrote:
> >>
> >> [...] if performing a love spell is supposed
> >> to be some sort of no-no, why are there so many of them available?
> >
> > The answer is simple -- there are many, many traditions of
> > witchcraft in addition to Wicca, and in those traditions, love
> > spells are *not* forbidden, discouraged, or even considered dubious.
> > For instance, in African-American hoodoo, Mexican brujeria, and
> > Italian stregheria, love spells -- including even "coercing" rather
> > than "attracting" love spells -- are considered well within the
> > normal range of practice.
> >
> > For a collection of love spells in various folk-magic traditions,
> > check out
> > http://www.luckymojo.com/lovespells.html
>
> What you say may well be so, but consider this for a moment....
> More than likely, those that are willing to do so, also do the spell
> on behalf of the querant for an agreed upon price - although the price
> may not always be in the form of money.
This is more true in some cultures than in ohers. American people of
Germanic and Celtic ethnicity seem -- at least these days -- to frown
upon hiring a witch or root worker to perform a spell on their behalf.
In the African-American culture, howeever, hiring a root worker is
considered quite normal and unsurprising.
> Consider this as well, that if
> you asked me for a spell, and I gave it to you, it would be absolutely
> worthless to you if you did not know how to work the spell and have
> the wherewithall to work it.
Again, beliefs and cultural agreements about what exactly consititues
"the wherewithal to work a spell" vary from one group to another.
Americans of English-Irish descent, especially those with training in
Wicca, often require that spell-casting involves preliminary and
subsequent rituals such as calling the quarters, invoking, banishing,
drawing down, establishing cones of power, etc. -- not to mention
speaking long rhymed chants -- while in Italian stregheria folk-magi, to
give ut one example, a love=drawing spell can be as simple as putting
your menstrual blood in a man's coffee and saying "In the Name of the
Father, Son and Holy Ghost, Amen." African-American hoodoo folk-magic,
to give another example, places great emphasis on the virtues of the
roots, herbs, minerals, and bodily concerns employed in spell-craft,
with very little reliance on chants, but instead a simpler emphasis on
"concentration on your desire."
> Not only that, but if you did have the
> wherewithall to work a spell, you would not need to ask for one. You
> would do your own.
What you are saying is, in my personal experience, primarily a
Celttic-British belief, and it is especially common among Americans with
Wiccan training whose families were previous Christianized to a great
degree, because "asking for a spell" will get you nothing. For those
whose lineage and tradition were broken, sometimes centuries ago, it is
often needful to create your own spells, and this is considered
valuable.
Quite the opposite is true for those who have grown up in a living,
unbroken tradition of spell-craft. In that case, the idea of "making
your own spells up" is simply not relevant, because asking for and
learning a spell from an older person is the norm, and doing it exactly
as one is taught is considered the best way. This is certainly true
among African-American root workers, in my experience.
Neither method need become dogma, however, especially when one is
communicating with those from another tradition.
Cordially,
cat yronwode
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