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To: alt.magick,alt.christnet.demonology,alt.pagan.magick,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.paranormal.spells.hexes.magic From: nagasiva@luckymojo.com (blackman99) Subject: Prayer vs. Magic (was More questions) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 02:56:21 GMT 50000209 IVom uncited: >> Some people say all you need to do is to pray to God >> and nothing will happen to you, you will be protected >> against all spells, yoou don't need to do anything. a God helps those what helps themselves. prayer to a God is a form of request for help, and this help will be given to the faithful in correlation to the sincerety of the prayerful, the power and beneficence of the deity from whom help is sought. peacedawge@aol.comgarbage (Jo): > If the greatness of god were true to the exent people > expound i'ts/his virtues to be,the change never would > have been allowed to happen in the first place. that depends. without sufficient faith, without knowing the desire of the faithful (or is the God omniscient?), the God may not protect that person. > Wake up and smell the incense. It is the faith you > possess in itself that makes things happen/not happen , > not what /who you have that faith *in*. the Bible is full of stories of the rewards bestowed upon those whose faith was strong in the God. it is not faith in a God which makes miracles, according to many Christians. only the God can make miracles. magic, on the other hand, is sometimes said to be the direction of miracles in conformity with the will of the God. insofar as power has been placed within the herb and the mineral one might combine in a specific formulaic way to effect a specific effect, so also has the God provided a manner by which reality may be changed. it is quite possible that this change may only take place with the Creator's assent, in which case prayer for protection BY the Creator will prevent any magic from affecting the faithful from harm. blackman99 -- mailto:nagasiva@luckymojo.com; mailto:yronwode@luckymojo.com TOKUS: mailto:boboroshi@satanservice.org; http://www.satanservice.org/ notification: I may post any email replies; cc me if some response desired.
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