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To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.islam.sufism,alt.sufi,alt.magick,talk.religion.misc,alt.paranormal.spells.hexes.magic From: haramullahSubject: Islam, Sufism, Magic and More! Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:07:40 GMT 50010828 VI! Hail Satan! Hail Allah! assalam alaykum, kin. > well hope that u will be able to help me in the > following. let me tell u a little about myself.I am a > Muslim girl by birth, by I was never much interested > in my religion. Thought my parents teach me the basic > of Islam. From some years I found myself interested > into witchcraft. I didn't know about Muslim > witchcraft, but after some deep research. I would like to know more about Muslim magic, have only a little bit of knowledge regarding charms and spells, and have enjoyed working Islam (as I know it, very unconventional and unusual) into my life and ritual. > Well, I would like to know whether you can > help me; I would like to learn more about Muslim > religion what I know about Muslim religion is very little, though I have shared time with some Sufis and enjoy a little study of traditional principles (such as the Five Pillars (six? :>), as well as the details about strange things like Ka'ab and Sufi magic). you grew up Muslim? what could I tell you that you do not already know?! perhaps what I could quote to you from my library or from my archives. I'm very willing to hear your questions. if I do not know an answer to them I may wish to try to find some of them from Muslims online. > as well as magic which are contain in the > coran(Muslim sacred book). a wonderful subject! I know Qur'an very little and have understood that some Arabic charms and amulets have Qur'anic inscriptions on outside and perhaps paper with Qur'an text inside. there are specific surah which are used for these, but I have now forgotten them. perhaps you would know what these are? I might be able to look them up, or perhaps you can tell me what you have found. this is also a subject of great interest to me. I have met more than one Muslim trader: both named Abdul! they knew little about magic but shared what they could. the first Majid was from Afghanistan but had lived in Pakistan and India before coming to the US. he was getting out of the business of selling charms, statues of gods, deity cards, etc. when my wife and I met him and he shared his Ramadan supper with us (we were very honoured at this). what Majid had to share besides the occasional amulet boxes (in which one places portions of Qur'an for protection) was a kind of plant (its seed) called 'Aspand' which one burnt upon charcoal. one waves the smoke around the child's head after she returns to the home, thereby removing the effects of the Evil Eye (a very well-known Middle Eastern, Mediterranean, European, Aegean, and Indian belief). the smoke was to circle around the child's head with the following recitation (perhaps you can better the translation I was given by Majid!): (transliterated Arabic) Aspand Bla Band Barakati Shaw Naqshband Jashmi Heach Jashmi Khaish Jashmi Dost wa Dooshmani Bad Andish Be sosa der Hamin Atashi Taze. (translated into English?) This is Aspand, it banishes the Evil Eye the blessing of King of Naqshband eye of nothing, eye of relatives eye of friends, eye of enemies whoever is bad should burn in this glowing fire. if you know anything about this seed, where it comes from, what its English name is, the plant from which it comes, etc., I would like to learn this, as well as anything more you know about Muslim magic. there is some text within books about Sufism (unknown how reliable this is). it describes what seems to me a comparable type of magic or power (siddhis) as what are taught by Indians (Hindus usually) and Hermetics (Europeans) or Buddhists (variable, often Tibetan): that sufficient mystical development will allow the adept to obtain or use certain superordinary abilities such as telepathy, telekinesis, the ability to be two places at once or travel in an instant, etc. I must urge caution that I am unaware that any of the tales about these powers are true, though I have some little experience with people who appeared to dream something before it occurred (usually something very inconsequential!). I was unaware that these individuals were more spiritually developed than others, not having dedicated their lives to mystical disciplines, for example. > I am very much interested > in witchcraft and I also know that you can learn much > through coran. you may wish to check out the book "Semitic Magic", published by Samuel Weiser, whose information I can get for you if you need it (you can probably look them up at Google.com if you like). it contains descriptions of Babylonian, Canaanite, Jewish, Muslim, and other Middle Eastern forms of magic from ancient times to the present. I know very little about this as I am not yet familiar with the subject. if you do research it please share with me in public forums to which I would like to also post this email! :> > But I also want to learn more about my > religion, I find that online a good source is #muslim channels in IRC (ignore those who wish to tell you 'The Truth', if you take my advice, and ask lots of questions regardless of how upset they may get -- but of course try to keep respectful so they don't throw you out! I go by the name "haramullah" when I visit so they know to expect the forbidden from me :> -- this is my name among Muslims and why I have signed my letter to you as such). > about the hadiz, perhaps you mean the Hadith? this is a collection of sayings attributed to Muhammad, probably composed some decades or longer after his death. > sufism, etc. sufism is very complex, being a system and culture of mystics whose common structural component is that of 'orders' or 'tariqas', usually headed by a sheikh or guide, and tracing itself back through many former sheikhs to Muhammad (pbuh), Mosheh (pbuh), and even to Adam (pbuh)! they are of variable contention about their allegiance to Islam, some expressing universal sentiments (transreligious), some walking the line, most of them associating themselves with a variety of mystic saints and poets (e.g. Ibn Arabi, Al Hallaj, and Rumi) by whom they are inspired and whose presence some believe may still be encountered! there are many orders throughout the world which one may encounter by finding their local center via the internet. my own experience was with the Naqshbandis and the Jerrahis, if memory serves, and each had its own appeal. VERY kind and humble people. as a woman you may find that some serve you better than others (because of their tendency, for example, to break apart the males and females in socialization and worship -- something with which my own Shakti-worship does not always mix well). it may be helpful for you to initially try to contact universalists sufis, such as those who of the lineage of Inayat Khan, or Idries Shah (the latter's book, "The Sufis" is also a valuable read). peace be with you, haramullah nagasiva@luckymojo.com -- emailed replies may be posted ----- "sa avidya ya vimuktaye" ----- "that which liberates is ignorance" http://www.luckymojo.com/nagasiva.html hoodoo catalogue: send postal address to catalogues@luckymojo.com
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