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Aurum Solis rises again!

To: alt.magick
From: Al Billings 
Subject: Re: Aurum Solis rises again! (was: Re: Aurum Solis: Phoney?)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:53:13 -0800

On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 18:19:04 GMT, (Gnome d Plume)

>      Unfortunately Denning & Phillips are said to have withheld
>further unpublished materials from their order members---especially in
>the U.S. --- for a number of years; a further indication that the
>Aurum Solis, at least from the perspective of its modern founders, was
>a commercial enterprise rather than a sincere occult fraternity,
>regardless of how potentially valuable some of the material is and may
>yet become. To further this impression, when asked for these promised
>advanced grade papers the Americans were told (as I understand it) to
>buy their "advanced material" after publication, and then Phillips
>overturned everything and went Christian! 

 Why are you attempting to tell this to me when, if you read the
archive of this newsgroup, I'm the one that originally posted about
the situation last August?

 Your perspective is quite slanted and not quite accurate. Papers had
not been forthcoming when promised and questions around this to
Philips (and you can't tar Melita Denning with this) led to the
revoking of the U.S. charters along with some other concerns.

 We were never told to "buy their 'adcanced material' after
publication," Poke.

>      If the Aurum Solis is to continue with credability after the
>recent actions and in-actions of its founders, then an honesty,
>similar to that of the present Golden Dawn, in regard to its history
>might be necessary.

 Unfortuantely, as I've said, you're barking at the wrong mailman. No
one in the U.S. is in a position to prove (or not prove) anything as
we are all modern initiates. Any documents are in the hands of
Philips. You should talk to him. I'm not in a position to do anything
about that and am, realistically, not particularily focused on that
particular snipe hunt.

>      And I do apologize to you if I mistook your diffidence as direct
>support for another later and equally dubious founder's myth.****

 A myth or non-myth that has no bearing on myself or anyone else in
the Ordo Astrum Sopiae. Take it up with Philips. He was one of the two
authors of the published books and he's the only one alive that can
probably answer your questions. Complaining to those of us in the
American order isn't going to win you any love as we aren't in a
position to address your complaint and have bigger fish to fry.


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