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To: alt.magick From: Josh NortonSubject: Re: Skrying the 30 Aethyrs Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 19:37:52 GMT On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:54:03 GMT, "Chris" wrote: >Hello Josh, > >I have read in your Skrying text that if one uses a dark mirror for Enochian >skrying one should make a new mirror for each session. Is this truly >necessary? I don't remember saying that, but it would actually be counterproductive. Since the "mirror" technique I described works entirely on the astral level, a particular mirror you build there should increase in effectiveness with continued use. As far as physical mirrors go, I wouldn't see any point beyond dedicating one mirror entirely to enochian work. OTOH, since the amount of effort you put into an invocation (and the preparation for it) tends to increase the effectiveness of the work, you COULD make a new mirror for every ceremony as evidence of your "dedication to the task". I've found that spirits tend to appreciate that sort of persistence. >If I skryed the Aethyrs on my ussual dark skrying mirror, would it later >effect my other skrying sessions or visions? I doubt that there would be any long-term effect on the mirror. But there might be a long-term effect on you. Enochian energies can't be readily banished; you have to let them "cool off" at their own rate. If you try to invoke powers from some other system while still "hot" with Enochian energy, there will certainly be an influence of some sort. > >I have been working with my dark mirror and trying to obtain visions, so far >with limited sucess. I have found that it is a difficult practice. I >ussually take corresponding oil, or corresponding colored grease pencils and >draw the symbol of the force I am skrying on my mirror and put two candels >beside it. I then pasively stare into the mirror. I find that it will go >black within a few minutes and my reflection will come back as something >else reflection, but so far That is all I have been able to obtain. I have >not had any success with obtaining visions. Occasionaly I will see something >dark or garbled and I say "I think that could be something..." >Many times My sessions are disrupted by my eyes getting sore from being open >and close to candel light, and I blink or they water. I am in trance when I >am doing this, and my astral hearing kicks in, but I have not had any luck, >any tips? The whole point of any scrying technique is to disengage the visual-interpretive parts of the mind from the stimuli of the eyes, and to hook those parts into your imagination, which is the gate to the magickal worlds. If you are having trouble with your eyes you are definitely doing something wrong; you should become uninfluenced by your eyes while scrying, so that you can open or close them, or blink as much as you want without affecting the astral vision. As far as specific suggestions, try using many more candles, but set them away from the mirror, so that they are out of your line of sight and the illumination of your mirror comes from light reflected off the walls and ceiling of the room. I personally think the "change your face" variation of the technique is of limited or marginal usefulness. If it's not working for you, try angling the mirror so that you _don't_ see your own reflection -- preferably so that you don't see any reflections of recognizable objects, and try to imagine that the mirror is a window into a separate magickal space. Invoke the energies into that space and let them take whatever form they want. Beyond that, unending practice is the best key to success. The more you do it, the better you will get, like any activity with a learning curve. > >Last question. >When one see's a vision in a dark mirror what should the image "look like". >Is it very dark and subjective passive shapes... or do the visions come with >some realism to them, with some colors and motions etc? > This varies a lot from person to person; it isn't the intensity of the vision that counts, it's what you do with it. Some people have rather vivid astral visions, rich with visible details. Others -- myself included -- don't; the details are more suggested than seen, most of the time. It doesn't matter in the least, as long as you can get something out of the vision. One final comment before I re-cloak. The Aethyrs are probably the worst possible place to start scrying in Enochian magick, especially if you are a more-or-less beginner at the practice. I guess it's the Crowley influence that makes everyone want to start there, but it's a big mistake to do so. The Aethyrs are all different from each other, and there is little or no reinforcement when going from one to another. You are essentially starting from scratch every time you invoke one of them. OTOH, if you work with the regular hierarchies contained in the Enochian tablets, each square or name you invoke leaves a cumulative imprint that makes it easier to get an effect when you invoke some other name. There are similarities between the angels on various levels, and orderly flows of energy between levels, which make the whole process of exploring their worlds much easier than the Aethyrs. Ben Rowe
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