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To: alt.magick,alt.satanism,alt.religion.satanism,alt.religion.angels,talk.religion.misc From: dalton@nfld.com (David Dalton) Subject: Djinn, Valakhilya, and Rakasha . Date: 29 Dec 2003 21:30:36 -0800 Here is a post I just sent to alt.religion.islam and three related groups which might be of some interest in these groups as well. (I have added the line about angels, in square brackets, below, though, in this version.) --------------------- Now if I undertand it djinn or jinn are said to have been created from a smokeless flame of fire. Could they then maybe be the same as the Hindu Valakhilya who I think have induced on me the flying alive mystic sparks described in http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/sparks.html ? Also are they maybe the same as the Buddhist Rakasha modelled after in Roger Zelazny's science fiction novel Lord of Light? [But I usually think of the Valakhilya as a form of angels, like "the angel of light, the angel of fire" in Bill Bourne's song Oblioh or as the little messengers of the sun.] Also if I have it right there are mostly good djinn, also djinn that are sometimes good and sometimes bad so you would have to be careful in dealing with them as they are untrustworthy, and mostly bad djinn, is that right? In I think early June 1994 when fooling around on Canadian singer/songwriter Sarah McLachlan's fan e-mail discussion list fumbling-towards-ectasy (named after her third recording) I did two limericks based on her first and last name, and here they are: there is a human named Sarah she belts out the truly rare ah the trussed listener quivers whenever she delivers her passionate oral lay, raw this child of McLachlan fortified by strong djinn braves web of sea and leaf breaks bonds of pain and grief sings words of earth cracklin' So anyway the jokes in the first one are that she has a song Trust on her first recording, and the word lay can mean either an epic poem or a sexual encounter. But I include them here mainly because the second one uses the word djinn (which I also meant to have double meaning of gin, the liquor). Also the cracklin' refers to her song Into the Fire on her second recording (her web site is http://www.sarahmclachlan.com ) and does not mean flames of destruction but I am pretty sure the flames of positive transformation, perhaps spiritual fire as referred to by Rabi'a in her poems, the flames of creativity (as in the Hindu coming out of the cremation ground as Kali dances upon Shiva, since I have read that in Hinduism creativity and fire are equated), and perhaps also loving sexual fire. Also I of course meant the good sort of djinn. David
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