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To: alt.magick.tyagi From: slarty1@my-deja.com Subject: tarot/tree of life and I-Ching Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2000 08:09:37 GMT If you are viewing this on deja, it will be neccasary for you to view it in origonal usenet format for you to have a chance of grocking the table below. I am one of, maby 10 or so, occultists who have taken up the subject of the correspondence of the tarot the cabala and the tree of life. I am the only occultist I know of, other than David Allen Hulse who has worked on it from the "angle" of (in the language of the cabal) 32=64, which seems to me to obviously be the only "angle" that makes propper sence to the thinking occultist/perhaps thinking taoist, or confuscionist, as well. The other is David Allen Hulse; who, clearly "knocked it up in his garage" or "dashed it off as an after-thought" ( altho, I must say, David Allen Hulse has much to recomend him, in almost all other aspects of his work The Key of it All, and I have never hesitated to reccomend it), and so this may be the first fully developed correspondence for the tree of life and the I-Ching. I am somewhat interested inthe thoughts of those who may know the tarot, the tree of life or the I-Ching, better than do I; since it is only that I am the only person who has worked things out this much, that would make me back away from such criticisms (Part of me is wont to say "what would you offer in it's stead?"). Altho I am working from the 32=64 angle, and as I said it makes most sence to me, the more usual 8=10 model, is not something which I find repulsive, but I hope some can see why I would consider the former the higher priority. I have been studying all of these for about 10 years now. My take on the subject is not based apon the King Wen Order. I do not wish to Desecrate Wen, but in the tradition of the Taoist Numerologists (etc.), and in deferance to the fact of the pre-Wen existence of the "Flux Tome", I have chosen an arrangement who's pattern is more obviouse. Apon saying that, I should, however, note that it is only more obviouse when considering the new order of the tarot/tree of life I have posted to alt.magick, under the thread title "New correspondence of the tarot to the tree of life" (paraphrase). In that post I mention that the discovery (which is the correct term, for what is displayed "there") came as a result of an attempt to align the tree with the book of changes, but that that attempt had thus far failed. This is the success of that attempt. The pattern is basically Heaven at the top of the tree and earth at the bottom of the tree, with the upper trigrams going thru their "complete cycle", before the lower gua (which makes sence, if you think about it; especially since we always think of a gua as being built from the ground up[therefore we should expect the more fundamental difference3s in hexagrams to be ones in which the bottom trigram is different, if my way of thinking is correct]), the cycle of which I spoke is based apon Yang's tendancy to rise and Yin's tendancy to fall. That for those who know the subject extremely well, would be the key to the entire assignation, but for the the question that nagged me: "should I assign the Sephira of the tree of life a Gua that upsets the pattern, but makes more sence based on what I know of the Sephira and the Hexagrams?". So I tried it both way's. I came to the conclusion that I should, but in case I was wrong, I shall also be presenting the more pattern consistent arrangement. I shall also present an arbitrary arrangement, and that offered by Hulse. The gentle reader will understand the following far better if they are familliar with my previouse post, mentioned above. And so here is the cards arranged on the tree of life, with the King Wen Gua numbers (2 each of course) following: arrangement I like best fully patterned arbitrary hulse 1's 11/34 9/1 64/63 1/2 fool 43/14 43/13 62/61 21/22 2's 47/64 5/26 60/59 3/4 magus 5/26 11/34 58/57 23/24 empress28/50 57/44 56/55 27/28 3's 63/22 28/50 54/53 5/6 pope 28/50 48/18 52/51 31/32 4's 7/40 46/32 50/49 7/8 chariot46/32 37/13 48/47 35/36 lust 37/13 49/30 46/45 37/38 5's 49/30 63/22 44/43 9/10 papess 36/55 * 42/41 25/26 emperor61/10 * 40/39 29/30 lovers 58/38 * 38/37 33/34 hermit 60/41 * 36/35 39/40 justice19/54 * 34/33 43/44 6's 9/1 53/33 32/31 11/12 wheel 53/33 31/56 30/29 41/42 death 31/56 39/52 28/27 47/48 7's 51/24 15/62 26/25 13/14 h-man 15/62 59/6 24/23 45/46 devil 59/6 31/56 22/21 51/52 tower 7/40 29/4 20/19 53/54 8's 28/44 7/40 18/17 15/16 art 42/25 * 16/15 49/50 star 17/21 * 14/13 55/56 sun 3/27 * 12/11 59/60 9's 2/16 24/51 10/9 17/18 moon 20/12 * 8/7 57/58 eon 45/35 * 6/5 61/62 world 8/23 * 4/3 63/64 10's 30/52 2/16 2/1 19/20 *=same as in previouse collum. My work is probably not complete. There is another "angle" that shows alot of promise, that I have yet to look into, and that is 48 as 64-AND32+...16. I'll not say more, for a variety of reasons! -- amo sapientia love of wisdom anhelo scientia lust for knowledge cultus apud verum-I worship of truth The above is :left:my attempt at a latin translation of: right: My magickal motto. elist heuristic mysticism : http://www.egroups.com/group/heuristic_mysticism Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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