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To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.tarot,alt.divination,alt.pagan.magick,alt.thelema,alt.magick From: 333Subject: AC-SWITCH/GD-SWITCH and He-Tzaddi Problems Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 08:13:47 GMT Orig-To: TarotL@yahoogroups.com 50040104 vii om some settling of contents... MORE From the Tzaddi/He CROWLEY-SWITCH Series 333 re GD-SWITCH observations in Crowley's data: #> ok, but I think it is imperative to leave them in any #> place where they are being compared and/or contrasted #> with the AC-SWITCH cards. I've tried to show why. # # This is one technique. it's not just a technique. Crowley is fairly clearly linking the two in his Moebius Ribbon (;>) and just about everywhere else. more importantly, he futzes with the pair *consistently* and provides the justification for the one with the other at the outset of his book describing his Tarot deck as painted by Harris (Thothbook p. 10). # I am merely looking for the weight of evidence that was Fr. AOM's interest also, tallying up marks and then going with the one with the most points. it is nowhere given reasonable support by Crowley as a method to understand him. it also doesn't, absent temporal specificity (which could be difficult to determine in some cases), analyze how his own developing notions may have varied. he was clear enough in spots that he was perplexed on the matter. therefore a focus on preponderance may be doomed to obsession with dead skin. you don't seem to be addressing this, just forging ahead along this trajectory in a faith that it will yield results. ... aggregation is no measure of intention by itself, especially where a diversity obtains. as I have adequately explained this diversity (notably giving you at least 3 exceptions within this very posting), it becomes difficult to assess any overall intention. were there the mere few you have discovered, I could somewhat understand the trajectory that you are taking with respect to the material. any body of data can be found to be consonant with one's desired results, of course. # Crowley consistently lists the Emperor in the fifth # position of any list (...0=I ...IV). here are some exceptions I came up with before: Thothbook Implication ------------------------------- p268t Star=He=15 p268t Emperor=Tzaddi=28 --------------------------------------------------- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TarotL/message/38253 # ...the table on page 278. which lists when arighted. p278t Star=He=Aries=15 *reversed* p278t Lust=Teth=Leo=19 *reversed* p278t Adjustment=Lamed=Libra=22 *reversed* p278t Emperor=Tzaddi=Aquarius=28 *reversed* --------------------------------------------------- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TarotL/message/38253 278. unless published editions vary mightily, we'll have to presume that the table on 278 was jumbled if it is not ciphered (something I haven't seen disproven as yet), except the Roman Numerals ("Title and Number Printed on Cards" see http://www.luckymojo.com/avidyana/plebe/libertzaddi.txt [also see below]). 284. as I've recently added to Liber Tzaddi, here is what is required to fix that table (the Wheel is, as you've correctly indicated, quite properly configured; it is the table *below* the Wheel which is ciphered): $ in "The Essential Dignities of the Planets" (p 284) $ the standard within the Table therein to be used is $ Exaltation of the Planets, and the natural sequence of $ zodical signs, indicated correctly by the Wheel depicted $ thereon. the dimensions jumbled in that table are the $ *KEY SCALE #*s (which is unmarked and focussed on the $ AC-SWITCH) and "SIGNS OF THE ZODIAC" (marked and the $ rows for the GD-SWITCH are exchanged). $ $ the corrected rows look like this, centered on GD-SWITCH $ and AC-SWITCH cards (the only ones ciphered yet again): $ $ -------------------------------------------- $ EXALTATION OF PLANETS ZODIAC KEY $ THE PLANETS RULING SIGNS SCALE $ -------------------------------------------- $ SUN 19' MARS ARIES 15 $ URANUS 19' SUN LEO 19 $ SATURN 21' VENUS LIBRA 22 $ NEPTUNE 19' SATURN AQUARIUS 28 $ -------------------------------------------- $ $ here's the method to correct the table: $ $ Zodiac row changes (GD-SWITCH): $ change URANUS19-SUN-LEO-19 for $ SATURN21-VENUS-LIBRA-22 $ $ Key Scale changes (AC-SWITCH): $ change Key Scale 15 for 28 $ 28 for 5 $ $ {note the consistency of the switch-mechanism here! $ falling along Key # and astrological lines: $ 15 for 28 and 19 for 22.} $ $ that the table switches were intentional is obvious, $ they are only meaningful and informative as a cipher, $ an emphasis on their content and orientation. $ ------------------------------------------------------ $ "Liber Tzaddi: Practicus Data (GWB: AA)", by 333, $ published online, copyright 2003 nagasiva yronwode. $ http://www.luckymojo.com/avidyana/plebe/libertzaddi.txt $ ====================================================== corrections welcomed! both of those tables [p. 278 "Tarot Correspondences" and p. 284 "Essential Dignities of the Planets"] are ciphered and must be deciphered in order to yield their proper results. the standards of rectification are available to those using logic and a comprehension of occultism. see above for the correct adjustment to them from Liber Tzaddi. examining these charts does give me some exceptions to popular contentions, as they are *correct with respect to Hebrew letters and inclusive of the GD-SWITCH*, fucking up the zodiacal signs AND the Roman Numerals, while leaving the *GD cardnames* as is: 15-XVII-STAR-HE-AQUARIUS 19-XI-STRENGTH-TETH-LEO 22-VIII-JUSTICE-LAMED-LIBRA 28-IV-EMPEROR-TZADDI-ARIES yet *another* configuration! # ...- see the text on page 267. which is: % This diagram illustrates the conventional theory % of the structure of the Universe adopted as % convenient for the purpose of calculation in % the Book called *The Tarot*. ... The lines % joining the circles represent the twenty-two % numbers of the Hebrew alphabet with the actual % meanings of their names and their numerical value. % ----------------------------------------------------- % "The Book of Thoth", Crowley, Weiser, 1981, p. 267. % ===================================================== his mention of the paths is as Hebrew letter-numbers, and this emphasis indicates that he does care about the consistent sequence of Hebrew letter sequence (in fact he expects the Practicus to solve it with ingenuity or guidance by the wise). re Emperor/Star switch as put forward by many Crowleyans: #> i.e. it fucks up the zodiacal signs. counter-argument against this result: the Golden Dawn never did that. they based their attributions on their predecessors who never did that either, no matter what else they may have done with the Trumps, back to the Sepher Yetzirah. re Harris/Crowley: #> ...her catalogue for her showing #> of the cards has yet *another* fucked up letter #> attribution set in which *DALETH* is given for both #> the Empress *and* for the Star! Emperor has Tzaddi #> and is given Aries (Star Aquarius). NOT a typo, apparently, as I make plain in the document that I sent you privately. here are the details: EXHp9 Empress=Venus=Daleth 1942+ p10 Emperor=Aries=Tzaddi p11 Adjustment=Libra=Teth *duplicated* p12 Lust=Leo=Teth *duplicated* p14 Star=Aquarius=Daleth *duplicated* --------------------------------------------------- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TarotL/message/38253 this is in part why I say you have to watch *both* SWITCHES. the Exhibit Catalogue's GD-SWITCH cards are *also* fucked up. Crowley appears to have been LEAVING A TRAIL OF CONFUSION SURROUNDING BOTH SWITCHES. this can only rationally be resolved by some additional indicator of intention, which the ciphers in his Thothbook exemplify. # Do you know what the first mention of the actual Switch is? # Since it was added into 777 by someone else, where does it # first appear?.... ...it depends on what you're looking for. his earliest mention (ciphered!) of card switches is in his "Tarot Divination": TDp6 61=4=Emperor=He=Aries 1912+ p6 65=11=Fortitude=Teth=Leo *reversed* p7 68=8=Justice=Lamed=Libra *reversed* p8 74=17=Star=Tzaddi=Aquarius whose character of publishing is: TD -- "Tarot Divination", by Aleister Crowley Samuel Weiser, 1976...1994; changes? publishing history: 1912 -- within The Equinox, 1:8 as "A Description of the Cards of the Tarot" [subt.: With Their Attributions; Including a Method of Divination by Their Use" -- 333] 1976 -- retitled (by Weiser?) "Tarot Divination". NOTE: 65(/11/Fortitude), 66(/9/The Hermit), ..., 68 (/8/Justice) imply the GD SWITCH, but the 61 (/4/The Emperor) and 74 (/17/The Star) do *not* imply the AC SWITCH -- 333 all from --------------------------------------------------- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TarotL/message/38253 # The path order can be clearly seen in the TofL+Tarot # diagram on page 268. Crowley doesn't list the paths # anywhere in BofT in straight numerical order. isn't that interesting? by virtue of *omission* alone, then, something is afoot, or very strangely out-of-whack. drugs? his scripture *does* say something about the esoteric nature of the trump-letter set! in his descripts of the ToLs he is very clear that the letters are important. given his increasing value of his scripture to him, why doubt that he'd try to fulfill this and conceal his intentions? suggestions re weighted emphasis lead to these results: #> a) corrupt the zodiacal sequence by performing #> the AC-SWITCH as you've described it. #> b) leave the GD-SWITCH behind, *despite* #> his desire to use it to support his #> switch with the Moronic Moebius. # You are the one who insists that Crowley's material # match a particular theory of your own. not sure which theory that might be. here's my thought on the whole: generally granting a diversity of data, prioritization must take place in order to discern which data is most important. aggregate and temporal schemes have been presented, and you may well have established some aggregate primary. I'm not trying to argue you away from your priority- selection, just saying that temporal is more convincing to me than aggregate, and cipherment more convincing than temporal. aggregate preponderant data are important to aggregate selection. there is no prioritization within such an analysis given the evident expression of confusion and interest in somehow resolving this by the individual involved. you might, for example, establish an overwhelming deluge of expression on some particular configuration, but I've shown that this is in no way entirely consistent, and thus the possibility exists that a solution was reached late in the construction of the data and no attempt was made to reconcile the material to coherence. strike one. temporal earliest and latest expressions are important to priority selections involving temporal analysis. from what I can tell, the earliest card-switch material comes from his 1912 the repetition of GD attributions, *ciphering* these. the earliest AC-SWITCH material (i.e. that involving the IV-15/XVII-28 cards) appears to be July of 1942, in the Harris Exhibition Catalogue, which is at *odds* with all other attributions, involving *DALETH* rather than HE. the latest expression appears to be in his letters that were compiled as part of "Magick Without Tears", in which Star=He, a bare pittance of material to go by. strike two. cipher intentionality of emphasis is the most rational analysis where aggregate is diverse and temporal is confused. I've shown that from the first expression in 1912 to the latest expression in MWT that these conditions obtain, and that a clear delineation of intention ... the material to which I was pointing is the undergirding explanation for how the card switchES ought to be carried out, based on the argument he provides. the ToL diagrams give the Hebrew correctly. his tables in Appendix B ("Tarot Correspondences") give the proper configuration in cipher. #># I believe that two astrological attributions on page 278 #># are in error, where IV (says Aquarius) and XVII (says #># Aries).... #> #> why do you think that this table is run backward for #> only these four cards (GD-SWITCH/AC-SWITCH)? re-examine p. 278 and you'll find that the letters LAMED and TETH are so switched in the following overall configuration: ------------------------------------------------------------------ Number/Title on Card Letter Value Attribution Key Scale ------------------------------------------------------------------ IV EMPEROR TZADDI 90,900 AQUARIUS 28 VIII ADJUSTMENT LAMED 30 LIBRA 22 IX LUST TETH 9 LEO 19 XVII STAR HE 5 ARIES 15 ------------------------------------------------------------------ which, when corrected, yields: ------------------------------------------------------------------ Number/Title on Card Letter Value Attribution Key Scale ------------------------------------------------------------------ XVII STAR HE 5 ARIES 15 IX LUST TETH 9 LEO 19 VIII ADJUSTMENT LAMED 30 LIBRA 22 IV EMPEROR TZADDI 90,900 AQUARIUS 28 ------------------------------------------------------------------ ultimately, intention overall can best be ascertained through explanations where variation from tradition obtains, making other exceptions for those materials which are somehow emphasized through cipher. beyond this, there is no sustainable way to discern overall intention. the Practicus must wend hir way through the puzzles and proliferation of variety espoused by the confused and/or wily Master. that support from a document considered primary by the author in question contains no clear resolution makes aggregate coherence meaningless, inference beyond this which proceeds without superior insight and knowledge misguided. this is what Aiwass conveyed, Crowley interpreted, and thereafter presented to those who follow via occult means. the mechanism of secret initiation and obedience oaths in pursuit of arcane information is not the delimiter of wisdom any more than supposition by virtue of aggregation, which may be applied by anyone with but means to procure. E666! 333 ============================================================ refs http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TarotL/message/38253 and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thelema93-l/message/13940
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