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The Lord of the Rings Tree of Life

To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.pagan,alt.magick,alt.tarot,alt.divination
From: nagasiva 
Subject: Re: The Lord of the Rings Tree of Life
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:16:06 GMT

50030124 om
VIIth year in service to Satan

nagasiva :
>> do you think that such constructions [Spongebob, Sgt Pepper Tarot]
>> can yield the mysteries of the universe in novel form? or are their 
>> cutting edge qualities too much to connect with tradition? (Robert Scott Martin):
> My first response would be to downplay the value of "novelty" or
> "tradition" in favor of intimacy. I think these types of kitsch pop
> divination systems provide an extremely intimate vehicle for 
> communicating their content -- since the target audience already 
> has a fan attraction to the imagery, the learning curve is smoothed 
> into something approaching a straight line. If I give a 10-year-old 
> girl in 1978 a Sgt Pepper deck, it should speak to her intuitively. 

these days I guess it'd be the Powerpuff Girls Tarot. HIM gets to be
the Devil!

> If I give her a Therion deck, she's going to have to do a lot of 
> homework before the deck starts speaking to her.

I didn't have that difficulty, but my taste was whetted 
by exposure to Colman-Smith and an interest in Crowley
and Harris' artistic style in contrast, or enlargement. 

> But that's on the level of engineering the communicative channel, the 
> way the pipeline connects the user into the divinatory system. On the 
> level of architecture, it helps to build channels back into "tradition" 
> ... The more robust these channels are, the better chance your 
> audience has to establish itself within the larger field.


> The "novelty" inherent in the idiosyncratic deck or divinatory lexicon 
> is mainly of interest to me as it relates to the individual user, not 
> the larger field of past and present users. That is, if a deck 
> resonates with (possesses "intimacy") a user, then it is 
> communicating information that is novel TO THE USER. 

in the case of the Lord of the Rings, it would ideally be a 
simultaneous communication on the fantasy reflection of WWII
and the extraction (and enlargement on or attempted 
replacement) of Jewish mysticism set into an Italian card 
game.  a peculiar combination with dark hintings.

> If you haven't seen it, it's new to you, and the world is 
> created anew again. 

a new version of an old song, so to speak.

>That said, the formal restrictions operating in these kitsch decks do
>generate novelty by deforming the "traditional" structure (or model) to
>fit the materials at hand. The Pepper deck, for example, highlighted the
>love story elements of the arcana because those were the snapshots I had
>to work with -- the initiatory journey from zero to twenty-one became
>something more like Snow White, complete with the death of the maiden (and
>not a male initiate) in the middle.


>Works a lot like the process of doing a reading, only concentrating on a
>different level of the process. "Novelty" (the specific cards drawn) is
>always interacting with "tradition" (the received symbolic universe or
>deck), and the reader resolves the interaction to create an "intimate"  
>explanation for the deal, an interpretation of the moment (spread/novelty)
>in terms of the general (deck/tradition) that makes sense

do the mysteries of the universe which tarot is sometimes claimed to
reveal make themselves known through novel constructions, though?
or must one go the masters for that message? is taking up a tarot
deck from today's marketplace like dialing randomly for formulae?


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